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posted July 20, 2004 08:14 PM |
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I didn't open my mouth earlier, but I believe you may be referring to Oldtimer's Porch. I didn't think that was QP worthy. It may have been a bit humorous for a chuckle. Basically I think if it wasn't Oldtimer no QP would have been given. Yes it is nice to see him back, but give it for something QP worthy. He definitely has better posts than that one.
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posted July 20, 2004 09:17 PM |
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RSF Right On The Money
Well, RSF, now that you have brought it up...
Please keep in mind, I was not knocking the creator, as OldTimer has made some of the wittiest, most insightful, sarcastic, and unbelievably humorous posts I have ever had the pleasure to read. IMO, he is one of the best posters in the entire community. With that being said, I just found it quite disheartening to see creative threads such as PH's Image Editing getting overlooked, while other less-deserving threads get recognized.
I will try not to get involved in the politics of the community, as that is not my forte. Besides, it takes away from the time I could be spending creating things that make people laugh, regardless of whether those laughs come at the expense of myself or others. I am glad that some people are able to see the underlying humor in my posts, but I understand that not everyone gets it. I appreciate all the kind words, compliments, and even the criticism from all of you. If I offended anyone in the process, then let me take this opportunity to sincerely apologize to those members. Here we go..."I am truly, truly sorry...I am sorry that your senses of humor are so lame and your lives are so boring that you sit up in bed all night with the covers over your head SNIFFING YOUR OWN FARTS for entertainment." How's that?
I'm outta here for now, and with all that being said...
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posted July 20, 2004 11:11 PM |
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question: why is kitten still giving out QP:s here?
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posted July 20, 2004 11:36 PM |
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To Dingo, i don't care what you think, because you're posts are always boring, they have no real input, so you belong in the Wastelands, and only there, aswell.
Direct Insult! -Qp!
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posted July 21, 2004 05:17 AM |
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Yes Dingo you are right.
RealDeal. It's not okay to call people boring. I defended you when you were called boring, now I will do the same for Dingo.
Warning Issued. You are really walking on thin ice. Like I said earlier. Don't fight back by attacking other people. That only worsens the problem. You must remain calm and express your thoughts and opinions without pointing the finger at others.
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Aculias
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posted July 21, 2004 06:22 AM |
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Just my opinion but Calling someone boring shouldnt be an insult.
If someone is dull, they should be told.
Not like your calling him stupid, boring is not an insult.
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posted July 21, 2004 01:43 PM |
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Alright RSF, i'll gladly accept the warning, but if that is a direct insult, there is about 50 more people here who need a warning. And with dingos "this should be in the wastelands" that could be an insult aswell.
Alright 50 was just a tad to much, but you get the point. But here's a question, would the warning go away if i merely called it a toss? Because that obviously workes for other people.
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posted July 21, 2004 02:21 PM |
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for once im in defence for tossdeal.
explain the difference for me:
Saying that a thread belongs in wastelands at repeated times.
And saying that some persons posts are boring.
IMO its the exact same thing.
Threads thats moved to wastelands are usually spam threads, or boring to the public eye if you wanna put it like that.
So by saying that a thread belongs in wastelands you are indirectly saying that you think the post is boring.
"Your thread/post is boring" is just a direct way of putting it.
But they mean the exact same thing.
So i for one think dingo not is the one to speak in this matter. Because we all know who the "i think this thread belongs in wastelands" sayer is, and judging by that he has called way to many posts boring in his days to say that someone is insulting him when they are calling his posts boring.
Its hypocracy and its not good for this messageboard.
And besides, if you warn someone for using the word "boring".... then you better warn everyone from now on that tries to put a VW label on threads... or responds to a post with for example *sigh* because they all mean the same thing..directly or indirectly.
IMO its just wrong.. let people joke around and have fun instead. Afterall its that that makes us keep coming back here.
right?
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next time you remove a question of mine i would appreciate an answer on it first. Afterall this is the place for feedback right?
why is kitten giving out QP:s here?
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posted July 21, 2004 02:54 PM |
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 .. *Surprised* Thx dude.
Which also means: How about you RSF, you think that DTT should get booted into the wastelands.. hmm..
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posted July 21, 2004 05:12 PM |
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From what I remember of this community, I interpret things as:-
1) The insult thing. It depends whether you call the thread or the poster something like "boring". Thread has always been acceptable. Poster, then it is up to the mods to use their discresion based on the context, ie, if the poster is picked on a lot unnescessarily or they are winding the other posters up.
2) Deconstructing definitions is best left to Jaques Derrida in my opinion. But I interpret KittenAngel's QP as being given to the potential any OT thread has. They act as a lure for generally good quality light hearted good natured posting. I refuse to say whether I endorse it or not, I am not a moderator, this is not my job, but this is why I beleive it was given.
3) I believed that any mod could give a QP where s/he choses, regardless of whether they actually moderate the forum. Is this no longer so?
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posted July 21, 2004 05:28 PM |
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Since my name was brought up I will respond.
1. I could care less about getting a QP, but recieving one is surely not a <expletive deleted> crime against humanity (or HC). If a QP represents a top 2% of posts then I am most asuredly underrepresented in the amount of QPs I get(just by reading some of the stuff around here it is abvious that ALL OF MY POSTS ARE IN THE TOP 2% SO ALL OF THEM DESERVE A QP!)
2. I could care less about getting insulted, but calling something as interesting as a doorknob might be considered an insult, even if one praises the author later. Example: "That post was writen by a waste of human filth, yet sometimes the author doesn't put me to sleep."
3. If you truely care about who gives a QP and when you really need to reexamine your life. You are like a 2nd grader crying about not getting a goldstar from the teacher(AND The teachers are the mods!)
STOP all the whining and bellyaching. It is tired and old. It is shameful and beneath your dignity.
(Don't stop the insults, at least they are true responces to a post. If you write a post you need to be open to whatever responces your post ilicites.)
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posted July 21, 2004 05:29 PM |
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As for the insult bit; i agree that the question is whether the post or poster is what's under fire.
In this particular situation i think there has been too much unfriendly banter between groups and its gone on long enough. A warning before this escalates to an all out flame war seems a fair enough solution.
I really hope that if nothing else members can agree to disagree and stop this now; its no fun to read this bickering all the time - and its certainly not going to draw too many new posters to this forum.
I agree with Cat as to why she thinks the QP was given - and there certainly is potential there. I don't agree that QP's should be given based strictly on potential tho. If we start to award every funny poster with a star every time they post this board will be lighting up the nite sky in no time.  Nonetheless, the beer is good and the porch is nice in spite of the incessant creaking of Oldtimers rocking chair 
As for mods giving QP anywhere, i think the they can question is if they should... I dunno, as far as mods go I am the n00b - but the others do seem to be looking towards a more structured approach to moderating and with extra hands in the mix it can get confusing.
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posted July 21, 2004 06:50 PM |
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To the dismay of all you 'harmonious peacekeepers' here, I am going to have to throw my hat back in the ring.
Let me explain the unfairness and bias that has taken place in a little more detail.
Excerpt from opening post in Oldtimer's Porch thread:Quote:
A warning to all, we oldfolk are a surly bunch. If you young whippersnappers come in and say something stupid, as you are SO prone to do, expect your comeuppence. We are mean. That goes for you guys that think that your point becomes increasingly valid by the more words you use to state it. My eyes are weak and I don't have the time to read that much crap, so you may be ignored. Consider yourselves warned!
I see this as good-natured humor, and I am sure many others do as well. It can also be interpreted as saying "If you are not a long-standing member or a you are not part of our 'clique', then be prepared to deal with whatever gets tossed your way." Now, is this insulting? Absolutely not. Is this intimidating or discouraging to newer members? Perhaps. Here, however, is where the problem exists. Should an self-advertised 'exclusive' thread from a long-standing member of the community receive the following praise and subsequent QP recogniton from a Moderator?Quote:
Welcome back oldtimer, also +qp gave for another [classic][sic] and quality thread!
I say "No" it should not, and I don't care if I am not a Moderator, because this is my opinion, and that is why this particular thread exists. The Moderators asked for feedback and complaints, and thus they shall receive it.
Cat so eloquently wrote:Quote:
But I interpret KittenAngel's QP as being given to the potential any OT thread has. They act as a lure for generally good quality light hearted good natured posting. I refuse to say whether I endorse it or not, I am not a moderator, this is not my job, but this is why I beleive it was given.
Okay. So when I have been here for XXX amount of time after developing a reputation for quality posting, and I create "The Ultimate Male's Crib" thread, I should be recognized and subsequently rewarded as well? That particualr thread had been existent for less than 24 hours, filled mostly with spam, tosses, and other light-hearted humor. Explain to me where the 'classic' and 'quality' come into play? I fail to see that logic.
On the other hand, you have a serious discussion going on here in this thread about a Moderator debating whether or not to award a QP to some very creative, inspiring, and thought-provoking topics.
If you think my observations, comments, complaining or 'whining' are about QPs, I have to say I agree with Oldtimer's take on QPs, because I could not have put it better myself.Quote:
I could care less about getting a QP, but recieving one is surely not a <expletive deleted> crime against humanity (or HC). If a QP represents a top 2% of posts then I am most asuredly underrepresented in the amount of QPs I get(just by reading some of the stuff around here it is abvious that ALL OF MY POSTS ARE IN THE TOP 2% SO ALL OF THEM DESERVE A QP!)
Is it a 'crime against humanity? No. Is it unfair to other members who take the time and effort to create quality topics and posts? Once again, I offer my opinion, and I say "YES".
If one does not see Moderator bias and extreme variations of what is considered as 'quality' around here, then one is not as perceptive or as one believes himself (or herself) to be.
Good discussion here. The 'doorknob' comment may have been out-of-line, but that was again my opinion, and thus, I shall offer my humble apologies to Oldtimer. Until next time...
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posted July 21, 2004 07:03 PM |
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I agree with TUM and SS, not because I don't like or like oldtimer, but because that is unfair towards other contributing members to give out Qps for quite a weird reasons and only because member returned and shared his humor sence with us...
(Just my 2 worthless cents...)
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Aculias
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posted July 21, 2004 09:11 PM |
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Heres my 50 cent piece because it's worth alot.
Oldone has many QP already & if anyone else would of made that thread, they probally wouldnt of gotten nothing.
Why not hes old look at him hes just old .
The person who gave him the QP hmm,maybe she just forgot sdhes not in the tavern anymore  .
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posted July 21, 2004 09:21 PM |
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i better videotape myself sleeping because soon enough ill start to believe that TUM is a 2nd account of mine aswell
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1) The insult thing. It depends whether you call the thread or the poster something like "boring". Thread has always been acceptable. Poster, then it is up to the mods to use their discresion based on the context, ie, if the poster is picked on a lot unnescessarily or they are winding the other posters up.
ok.
then explain the difference about me calling all of someones threads boring and calling the person him/herself boring.
Because facts are what i base my perception here about other members are on their posts.
I dont see them talk, i dont see how they do express themselves.
All thats left is words... words that make up posts and threads. The very posts and threads i will make my idea on who that person is on.
So all this defensive talk about calling posts boring is ok and persons not is just hypocrite BS.
In the long run they mean the same thing anyway.
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3. If you truely care about who gives a QP and when you really need to reexamine your life. You are like a 2nd grader crying about not getting a goldstar from the teacher(AND The teachers are the mods!)
funny.
And that would make you my classmate then who whines about the one whining?
What you in difference to me seem to have missed though is the history classes.
In those you would have learned about some "weird" calls from kitten. Weird calls that ended up with her getting only to moderator WOG forum after the repositioning of the modsquad.
And i dont see the point in moving someone if she still is to keep making the calls that are questionable to say the least. Just take a look from the respones to the given QP.
So now calm down and go home and do your home work old man... then dont forget to bring an apple to the nice mods tomorrow
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Aculias
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posted July 21, 2004 09:35 PM |
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I talked to Sox on MSN & he said it Just is LOL.
Also mentioned that the way they said it was warning proof which i hardly read in the DTT.
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Aculias
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posted July 21, 2004 09:42 PM |
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Now on serious level Calling someone boring is an insult,just as much as calling someone stupid.
Logically I think the person being called boring knows this & it depends on how they take this insult or not.
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posted July 21, 2004 09:44 PM |
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I've removed the QP for Oldtimer's Porch and awarded him one for his recent post in Tosser's Tavern - find it here if you're interested.
While I agreed that Oldtimers Porch wasn't a QP type post, I also must agree that Oldtimer's posts are very often a fine example of quality and so I opted to award him for one I felt was more worthy.
I hope this appeases the masses
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posted July 21, 2004 09:49 PM |
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LoL i see many new Mods, can't wait til Stiven and Aculis gets to be mods. Suddenly its all pr0n banners and pink thongs everywhere.
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