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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 13, 2004 06:14 AM |
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Watch,hes bossy & making the tavern like if your getting nagged at by your bos at work,you cant have fun without worrying about him being himself doing his warnings etc.
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RedSoxFan3
Admirable
Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted June 13, 2004 06:16 AM |
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The only fault I see in Redsox, is maybe that he cares a lot more for the Bard's Glade than the tavern, and some preference to posters in his RP does come across...
I can't argue this because it is true. I have become a writer and it is writing that I love. However when I deal with tavern I do so as though Glade doesn't exist. However I will say that there are some truly amazing writers in Glade who should be commended for their work and I admit that I do give out numerous QPs. And for those of you who never read in there. I think it would change your mind about some of the so-called spammers after you take a closer look and read some of their posts in Glade.
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pandora
Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
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posted June 13, 2004 06:24 AM |
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you may be right.. i dont read there cuz at my old board for bastard tourney we had an epic of an RP going that meant a great deal to me... and it was lost. so now RP's are just to painful  so there
I'm sure that some of the people who write there are awesome writers, and i don't fault you for appreciating that at all. i just think some good stuff gets missed in here sometimes that's all 
on the whole Redsox, I'm in your corner... you're on the right path I think , there are just a few things here and there that could be better
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 13, 2004 06:25 AM |
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Whats the use He can be 100% wrong & nothing changes ok Sox you win, you can have any way you want.
All good.
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Orion
Known Hero
Dark God of Ordered Chaos
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posted June 13, 2004 06:29 AM |
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well he is right about the spammers being better members in glade but still why should we change our thoughts on them when they still fill everything else with spam i have
canned ham comming out of my speakers cause of some of them
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RedSoxFan3
Admirable
Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted June 13, 2004 07:10 AM |
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well he is right about the spammers being better members in glade but still why should we change our thoughts on them when they still fill everything else with spam i have
canned ham comming out of my speakers cause of some of them
Absolutely right. What I meant was that they are capable of good posting. Spam is spam no matter who it comes from.
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Orion
Known Hero
Dark God of Ordered Chaos
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posted June 13, 2004 07:17 AM |
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it is good to know even the spammers do have redemable traits something a handful of people need to be remineded of everynow and again myself included
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Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 13, 2004 10:40 AM |
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Alright I will post how I feel of the situation.
This time I will be as serious as I can.
After talking to Pandora & thinking about it I will try to come up with somethang.
For one it's good that you Sox is more envolved with the Glade I mean your a good writer & rightfully so you belong in the tavern.
I think that you try to be there for the people,but Sometimes especially with new comers you may come on a bit to strong.
Try to be a buddy when they do wrong for the first time & let them know what they did but also make it a warning.
It's great that you give threads the attention they deserve.
Like for a long time no mod ever looked in the tavern until you have.
I think you try to have fun like us tossers a bit too much but that takes work  .
Everybody has qualities, like you & Cathrine being creative in stories & writng etc,everyone deserves a fair chance.
Theres alot of young kids in here that look for fun & talk to others about interests & certain topics or to just relax.
All I am saying it take it easy.
Personally I think that about 80% of the time theres a spam they dont actually do it intensionally but just trying to fit in.
Try to bear with them.
I seen SOme HC run off new comers that became spammers before they could develope in here & kind of messed up.
Like Dar Kraven.
I think I am one few that know that he still posts here today & no one knows it after Andi,Motor & Stiven ran him off & not even i could be in his corner.
I try to be in everyones corner that are right.
Even tho no one ever backed me up ever on HC I always get IM to back them up.
Now that the seriousness is gone
Give me some love Sox  .
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Celfious
Promising
Legendary Hero
From earth
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posted June 17, 2004 07:51 AM |
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to many stickies?
Also the Noobs Vital info thread could be redone.
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TheRealDeal
Promising
Supreme Hero
Foobum* of Justice!
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posted June 17, 2004 09:27 PM |
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Hehe...
I'm new in this part of the Heroes Community.. But i've been reading alot in this thread, but not everything. I would give Acu a QP.. and RSF a point, for being funny. Their constant bickering has been very funny, seeing that a once in a while they become friendly against eachother, this isn't flame by the way, just soem comical input.
I agree with the 2 many stickies part. And i've seen some people which really deosn't diserve a QP at all, and some who diserves them greatly, but thats just my opinion, which differs from person to person.
I like you're post's acu, i must admit that, but.. you are a bit harsh ..
And as for fun, i haven't seen much of it, i've seen alot of kind people, and alot of people which i really like because of their way of telling things, and their.. well intelligence i might say. But.. i'm not going to make names, but i've seen ALOT of jerks in this post.. And kissups is obviusly a 10 for 1 sale this year.
Kissups and stickies and QP giving is my 3 problems, i wouldn't mind not getting any QP's myself, but it wouldn't make me mad if i saw one ..
And i think the MOD's are doing okay, not great, not bad, but okay. Their doing it like everyone else with a bit of intelligence would do it, and thats the way the cookie crumbles.
And pardon my spelling.. and my commas.. but i'm doing my best
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RedSoxFan3
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Fan of Red Sox
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posted June 30, 2004 10:37 AM |
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My first post in this thread while not being a moderator of Tavern. Well not yet. Val just needs to make the change.
I have a couple ideas here. The first one is the most important. I want to propose a change in what is or isn't an insult. Any reference of noob, tosser, spammer, or any other such label on a member, will be viewed as an insult if the term is used in such a way. I think this is negative as it segregates the community and creates tension. Each thread should have a set of guidelines as to what is or isn't spam in that particular thread. These guidelines can be amended at any time. I think Tossers Tavern should be the first thread to set this into place. Tavern has too many grey areas on spam. It needs concrete rules and those rules often change for each thread. The rules are not to take away the fun, but just so people especially new members.
Now this will never work unless the community is willing to go along with this. I absolutely think this will work if EVERYONE is willing to do this. If people aren't than the situation won't improve.
Edit: I thought this thread should be deleted, since it uses the 'labelling' in a bad way.
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=3&TID=12486
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Xarfax111
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
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posted June 30, 2004 01:06 PM |
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Hi RS3,
i see u would like to delete a post i made. If u want to do so, its no problem to me. You are the moderator here, and if u think, this post is bad or something, its totally ok if u delete it.
I agree that this post may have some more or less heavy tosses in, but be sure that those are more or less fun tosses and the peeps are mentioned can take those tosses with a smile..like "geez..this dammed bastard", and are easily able to defend theirselves with a nice toss in reply.
Its maybe the problem that u cant see the difference between tossing between old friends/enemies and others having a big fight.
Believe me, this thread is more fun, ironically and especially self-ironcally meant. Maybe u reread it..and if its still in a bad light for u then u can simply delete it.
But its fun.
Xarfax1
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SapphireRavyn
Promising
Famous Hero
Bird of Extreme Patience
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posted June 30, 2004 02:22 PM |
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OH MY
Well I am generally all for not being insulting but I see nothing wrong with Xarfax thread. In fact, I posted in it, and it was the best laugh I had all day. NOTHING written in there is at all serious, the whole dang thing is a big toss and that's why it's so funny. It's not using the "labeling" in a bad way, it's using it in the best and funniest way possible and it makes fun of the labeling itself while it does it.
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RedSoxFan3
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Fan of Red Sox
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posted June 30, 2004 07:43 PM |
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I'm not the moderator in here anymore. Anyway, what do you think of those two ideas? I think that concrete rules must be put into place.
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted June 30, 2004 08:46 PM |
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tossers tavern...
you can say that the atmosphere in the tossers tavern is alot like the one in a footballteam dressing room, the language is harsh sometimes almost brutal but there is never any bad agenda behind it. No one wants anyone else to get hurt.
As for postings in the tossers tavern.. well like the truth thread TT is alot a "members only" thread. Sure i and im sure others with me have no problem with the occational post/toss from someone else every now and then, but when half a page posts consists of talk about some ryan something is obviously wrong.
TT has been somekind of a free zone here, and thats IMO why its liked so much by some members. You usually know that when there is new posts there you will get a laugh or two. TT always also has to a certain degree been "spamfree" and thats why all the reactions lately, you cant have an interesting tavern when everyother post is "serious" and is about ghetto life or some guy no one have heard of.
Basically its a tavern, speak your mind. But be prepared that you can and problably will get tossed for it
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Dingo
Responsible
Legendary Hero
God of Dark SPAM
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posted July 01, 2004 01:54 AM |
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Any reference of noob, tosser, spammer, or any other such label on a member, will be viewed as an insult if the term is used in such a way. I think this is negative as it segregates the community and creates tension. Each thread should have a set of guidelines as to what is or isn't spam in that particular thread. These guidelines can be amended at any time.
I think this would be going too far. It sounds like Communism.
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RedSoxFan3
Admirable
Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted July 01, 2004 11:14 AM |
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Okay well it seems you didn't see the idea which I thought would make things easier to target spam and identify spam. There would be a short COC at the beginning of each thread explaining what things will be considered off-topic. For example in Tell the Truth it has a COC that states absolutely no posts except if you are asking or get asked.
I think Tossers Tavern needs another one as well. Now once we spell out what kind of posting is acceptable in our threads, then it is crystal clear to everyone, members and mods included. If at any point anyone doesn't like the COC of a thread a complaint can be filed and a revision can be made to the COC for that thread. It might seem like a small hassle at first, but I think it will make things easier, especially for noobs, to understand what should be posted in each thread. This way there aren't anymore disputes over what should or shouldn't be deleted. Obviously the judgement of one person isn't good enough for cleaning threads in Tavern.
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Asmodean
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Heroine at the weekend.
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posted July 01, 2004 01:50 PM |
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I think that Tavern is more than just the TT thread.
Some people seem to have forgotten that.
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KittenAngel
Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
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posted July 01, 2004 05:47 PM |
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Tavern is being cleaned
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Never wear anything that panics
the cat.
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pandora
Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
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posted July 01, 2004 08:08 PM |
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Any reference of noob, tosser, spammer, or any other such label on a member, will be viewed as an insult if the term is used in such a way. I think this is negative as it segregates the community and creates tension. Each thread should have a set of guidelines as to what is or isn't spam in that particular thread. These guidelines can be amended at any time.
I'm in agreement with Dingo *gasp* that it would be going too far to do this. I agree that the labelling does cause segregation, however to view it as an insult and penalize posters accordingly would only open up a whole new world of problems.
I think that more warnings should be given when a situation comes up, and things should be dealt with more quickly. To use TT as an example, we had someone go on an incredible spam extravaganza - and it was dealt with after the fact as opposed to nipped in the bud. In that case, I think that the spammer should have been warned, and if it didn't stop then it should have been dealt with right away. Of course, I feel just as much at fault as any moderator for this situation 'cuz i should have said to one of the mods how i felt about it rather than just wrinkle my nose at it
I think that one thing all of us need to do is take a bit more responsibility for what goes on here. Its so easy to say 'this sux, and someone should do this and blablabla' , and so many people have been more than willing to criticize others - but they do nothing constructive to try to fix things. Rather than sit there watching a bad situation build up and waiting for a mod to come fix it, more of us should be trying to do something ourselves to help.
edit: just a little bump up to put this thing back where it belongs
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