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Thread: Heroes 3 Town Rating -TOWER- This thread is 17 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · «PREV / NEXT»
william
william


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LummoxLewis
posted March 20, 2006 08:04 AM

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I think that this description deserves a QP.
Couldn't phrase that better (noone could in my opinion)


Thanks Supersonic

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william
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LummoxLewis
posted March 20, 2006 08:52 AM

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Overall nice review of the Tower town Wiliam. Thank you for your effort.
One thing made me think, and prolly u could explain it to me:
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All the units have good morale, regardless whether the hero has a morale of neutral

Where do u have this info from?
Perhaps u mix something up here?
If all creatures on a hero are from ONE town, they ALWAYS have +1 moral, but this counts for ALL towns (except necropolis).



Ok what i mean is this, If you have 1 gremlins in your army, that 1 gremlin will have good morale.
In the morale thing for the creature, it says all units of 1 alignment, even if it is 1 gremlin. That's what i meant.

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Zsa
Zsa


Famous Hero
posted March 20, 2006 10:04 AM

good effort william, a lot of your post is listing the stats and costs of the unit, and this is not what they're looking for, all that info is already here
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes3/creaturestower.shtml

A lot of the other things posted there are wrong ie nobody will ever take fafner as main hero for a multiplayer game or taking sorcery for a hero is usually bad advice. What I suggest to you is come to gamespy and get a few games going. See how your opinions change. Same for you supersonic, if you think you couldn't phrase it better yourself.

Yes yes angelito, I know this is not related to the topic, you can remove it later on if you want, thnx.
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william
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LummoxLewis
posted March 20, 2006 10:06 AM

Ok thanks, I dont have gamespy, i play on TCP connection, for your information.

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Zsa
Zsa


Famous Hero
posted March 20, 2006 10:09 AM

it's not hard, all you have to do is go to
www.gamespy.com and install it and that's it, you can start playing.

Gl and hope to see you online, I guarantee you 100% that if you do that, your opinion of the game will change 180 degrees.
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william
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LummoxLewis
posted March 20, 2006 10:11 AM

Ok but I will tell you that I took alot of time and effort into making that post, an hour and a half to be precise, and I don't know why some people think it is bad.

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angelito
angelito


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proud father of a princess
posted March 20, 2006 10:34 AM

Nobody thinks itīs bad Wiliam, it is a very good summary (as stated already).
There are just a few facts to be corrected.
The fact u would like Fafner as main hero is your opinion, and itīs ok. Others do like Iona, Solmyr, Torosar...also fine.
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william
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LummoxLewis
posted March 20, 2006 10:36 AM

Ok I made a mistake, I think that these are the best heroes for this town.

Fafner, Solmyr, Neela because of her Armourer skill thingy (she is the best hero for this town by the way) and a few others which I have forgotten.
thanks and I'm sorry I made a mistake

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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


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The last hero standing
posted March 20, 2006 01:43 PM

Orrin is the best for this town.
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Aculias
Aculias


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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted March 20, 2006 03:14 PM

Russ you make it sound like you can build the naga queens & recruit all of them everytime on week 2 .
Caution to all.
If you decide to recruit only nagas, becareful of thier speed, you can easily lose them because thier not that fast until upgraded.
Say you fight Wolf Raiders, thier faster.
Usually the best units are the ones that oponents disregards .
I dont totally agree that Orrin is the best for Tower.
Hes good but in final battle, the shooters are the prime suspects & Grems will go fast,Mages will feel pain early & Titans will be your only shooters left.
Naga Queens are the only units to worry about early rounds.
Obsidians are not much of a threat orless you have dwellings etc.
Golems are just too slow at that time.
Genies can cause damage but easily killed.

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william
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LummoxLewis
posted March 21, 2006 02:10 AM

Orrin is a castle hero, not a tower hero, by the way did anyone like my post that I made (the really long one)

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supersonic
supersonic


Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
posted March 21, 2006 09:42 PM

I do (wanted to do the same in the first place, you saved me from making so much effort)
I understand what you're thinking: Orrin is castle hero, but if you're lucky enough to get him from a tavern, don't make fun of yourself and take it! Of course, if he was from tower, life would be easier.

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Russ
Russ


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blah, blah, blah
posted March 21, 2006 10:41 PM
Edited by Russ on 21 Mar 2006

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Russ you make it sound like you can build the naga queens & recruit all of them everytime on week 2 .
Yep. That's exactly what I am saying. Do your best to try to upgrade & recruit the queens on week 2 day 1. It is easy if you know what you are doing. Tower is often the cheapest town to build on week 1, especially if you don't build the castle. Ok, sometimes you'll be 1-2 res short, but that's relatively rare. You can get the res from:
1) Res piles, so if you see the one that you need - go for it (duh!!!)
2) Mines (duh!!!)
3) Fires
4) Windmills (you get 2 shots at it from each windmill - one on week 1 and another on week 2 day 1)
5) Caches, treasuries, stores, 10-15 naga banks (with slow) and even 20-clop stockpiles can be cleaned on week 1 with acceptable losses (That's what Neela is for )
6) Marketplaces & trading posts
7) Heroes & arties (if you are lucky)
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If you decide to recruit only nagas, becareful of thier speed, you can easily lose them because thier not that fast until upgraded.
Yep, and that is exactly why they should be upgraded. 2-hex 7 speed, not to mention 30 damage instead of 20. That's a HUGE damage boost.
I also like to upgrade them ASAP because even if somehow you manage to use 5-speed nagas effectively, if your hero wanders away - you'll have to chain all of them back and forth eventually and I find that very difficult (if not impossible) at times.

Edit: if you are playing Tower, do NOT mess with the naga banks without mass slow! Nagas on the snow will kick your ass.

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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted March 22, 2006 07:01 AM

Not even nessary.
Tower is as expecsive as it comes.
You dont always have to upgrade them to have the only chance to winning.
If you can afford it then sure but it's expensive.
Not just building them but buying them.

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william
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LummoxLewis
posted March 22, 2006 09:01 AM

Well Nagas dont cost quite as much as Titans do, which is good.
But I don't really care about how much they cost, well I care but I don't pay serious attention to it.
I like the Tower Town and I think it is the best, regardless of how much units or buildings can cost.

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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted March 22, 2006 09:30 AM

I understand where hes coming from.
You have reg nagas & when you upgrade them & if your too far, it can really slow you down.
Even if you can afford all of them, they can do much damage.
I bought 2 of them & beat on hard creatures with no casualties.
I see where your coming from Russ.
Sometimes maps are not thyat rich,if i can buy them I would.
There were certain times it got expensive.
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william
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LummoxLewis
posted March 24, 2006 08:44 AM

I think that I would rather buy a expensive unit that is one of the most powerful in the game, than buying some cheap monster that is really poor in stats.
I don't care so much about the costs of the buildings for the Tower, they can cost quite alot, but I would rather win then lose because I had cheap buildings that came with cheap monsters that were really weak.

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Evil_Warrior
Evil_Warrior


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Duke of Demon
posted March 30, 2006 05:31 AM
Edited by Evil_Warrior on 29 Mar 2006

TOWER

ADVANTAGES
1. 3 shooters with 2 of them don't suffer melee penalty and do great damage.
2. Most of the creatures are over average compared by other towns.

DISADVANTAGES
1. Expensive in resource especially gems.
2. Need a lot of resources and hard prerequisities to build level 4 dwelling with its upgrade.
3. Unupgraded level 7 hasn't been ready to used in combat. Not like Angel, Devil, and Dragon that we can take them for an early battle. And it is hard to build the upgrade even supported by resource silo.
4. Highest speed that only 11. It is very dangerous if Titans get IMPLOSIONED.

SPECIAL BUILDINGS
1. Mage Guild Level 5 supported by Library gives big chance to get Town Portal, Dimension Door, Fly, or Rescurrection as Key to Victory.
2. Improved Knowledge fromn the Wall of Knowledge.
3. Lookout Tower reveals large area at the beginning of the game. One more step than other towns to explore the map.
4. Low attack and defense of the heroes can be improved by artifacts from the artifact merchants.

BEST CREATURES
1. Titan the best shooter with Mind Spell immunity and no melee penalty. +50% Damage to Black Dragons makes the Black Dragons in same number of Titans almost never attack the Titans directly. Maximum damage of the Titans is Greatest damage over all in-town creatures. Bless is very good for combine to them.
2. Master Genie with Spellcasting ability and high speed. Use to cast spell on Nagas. If the spell is haste, the Nagas will kill a great number of the enemy without be retaliated.

WORST CREATURES
Master Gremlin as Worst shooter. Halfling is better. But good to be used as enemy shooter target instead of Arch Mage. just cast rescurrection before last attack of your troops.

BUILDING ORDER
just need few gold to build level 7 creature even the upgrade is expensive. it makes us to have more number  of level 7 coz we build it earlier. But the level 4, 5, and 6 need crystal, gem, sulfur, and mercury! While they are the prerequisities of Cloud Temple. So my conclusion about the building order is slow.

GOOD ON MAPS
High resource maps to build the level 4-6 creatures as level 7 prerequesities. But it is better is there is the Hill Fort near the town. So we DON't need to build the upg. cloud temple (but better to build other dwelling upgrade). We just recruit 6-10 Giants and upgrade them at Hill Fort. Then go for combat and resource hunt. Upgrade the cloud temple after get many towns or mines.

BAD ON MAPS
Lack resource maps. Makes the building order very slow. we will need market very much even we never take profit from it.

COMBAT STRATEGY
This town is very good defender. Generally, the eney level 7 will attack the Gremlin or Mage. then Titan with no range penalty since the level 7 enemy go forward, shoot the level 7. So don't put the Titan near Gremlin or Mage. Better to be arranged in this order : Titan in the middle with Naga Queen and Iron Golem in left-right of it. Beside the Naga Queen or Iron Golem is Arch Mage or Master Gremlin. Then Master Genie and Obsidian Gargoyle beside the Shooters.
After Titan shoot the level 7, Cast mass haste. Then The master genie cast spell on naga Queen. Gargoyle wait, Arch mage attack (if the level 7 attack the gremlin, not the arch Mage) the level 7 Followed by naga Queen and now, after some number of the level 7 killed, the Gargoyle and Golem can attack without worry. Next round, coz your mass haste, you can cast mass bless before enemy level 7 attack.

HERO CLASSES
Only this town that has might hero with spel book. Although the ATK and DEF is not quite strong, but the Power and Knowledge can be good alternative. The Best spell speciality Hero, Solmyr, with improved knowledge from Wall of Knowledge, can cast Chain lightning more than once at the beginning of play. Then just go back to the town and stay one day to restore his spell points.

Compared by other towns, Tower is in position 7 after Dungeon, Necro, Castle, Conflux, Rampart, and Inferno.

Evil_Warrior




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ComradeX
ComradeX


Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
posted March 31, 2006 04:49 PM

Nice reply Evil Warrior!
I am certain Angelito will use some of your stuff when creating the final town rating for the Tower.

By the way, is this "Avatar changing day" or something like that? I see that many of the HC users have changed their Avatars! what's up?
(P.S: very nice job with the Avatars William, angelito, Aculias...)
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supersonic
supersonic


Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
posted March 31, 2006 05:16 PM

Emm. WTF? What happened to my avatar? And why yours isn't changed? Prima Aprilis?

Anyway, good description Evil Warrior.
PS: I have noticed that Tower can bash really hard on templates, in which you can get to Mage guild 5.
Also, solmyr isn't THAT bad, if you find him in a tavern, take him, so that he cleans the territory.

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