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Dragon_Slayer
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posted June 27, 2006 02:33 PM

Whether Italy played a great game and won, or a horrible game and won, the fact is that they won. No amount of winging can change that. If you want my honest opinion people who say Australia were robbed and stuff like that are just bias ignorant losers. Sure australia were the better team in second half, but if they were worth of winning they would have destroyed Italy with their one man advantage. Instead they played around with the ball and as a consequence lost the game. End of story.
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posted June 27, 2006 02:34 PM

Sounds to me like you are really taking it hard Slayer
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posted June 27, 2006 02:42 PM
Edited by Aculias at 14:43, 27 Jun 2006.

Well for thier information then, someone had to win & italy is one of the favorites.
Australia made it pretty far already.
You cant expect them to win because of a one man difference.
Italy was just a better team.
Thats it.

EDIT: Edited Cant because i said can, big difference
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posted June 27, 2006 02:51 PM

Thank you. Most people seem to focus soley on attack and no defense. Thats why everyone thought australia was dominating the game. But if you look closer you notice that the italian defence wasnt having any of it. Regardless of that, if we didnt have the red card, we probably would have won too. Who had the best scoring oppertunities in the game? Italy! So eventually we would have put one through. So in all honesty, yes Aust is a good team but they lacked the disipline in the second half to punish italy. So its nobodys fault but there own that they lost.
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posted June 27, 2006 03:49 PM

Australia first time in the 16 round & Italy has not lost like what 25 games in a row.
Australia had a chance to at least try to win in overtime but NOPE.
They had to make a stupid foul that caused Italy to win on a penalty kick.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the guy who caused the foul, not thier play style lol.
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posted June 27, 2006 05:03 PM
Edited by dread_knight at 17:05, 27 Jun 2006.

I'm not racist and I'm not an Aussie.
But I think that the way Italy won was unfair because there was no penalty, it was a wrong desicion, I was sure it's gonna go into the extra time and then into the penalty shootouts, then it would have been better. But the fact that the refree destroyed the game by this penalty doesn't change.

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posted June 27, 2006 05:31 PM

Sometimes the own view of a match isn´t very objective .
Here are the official statistics for every match of the 1/8 finals from the sportsmagazine "Kicker".

Germany vs Sweden
Corners: 4-4
Goalchances: 13-5
Score: 2-0

Argentina vs Mexico
Corners: 6-5
Goalchances: 6-7
Score: 2-1 OT

England vs Ecuador
Corners: 5-7
Goalchances: 2-2
Score: 1-0

Portugal vs Netherlands
Corners: 3-5
Goalchances: 6-8
Score: 1-0

Italy vs Australia
Corners: 2-2
Goalchances: 6-4
Score: 1-0

Switzerland vs Ucraine
Corners: 5-6
Goalchances: 3-5
Score: 0-3 OT + pen.
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posted June 27, 2006 05:36 PM

Italy won because of their famous acting abilities. Their playing style is the least spectacular - it is quite boring to watch a team defend for the entire game hoping to score one goal on the counterattack, or to dive in the penalty zone in the last minute if the counterattack strategy doesn't work out. They got 2 of the lamest wins in this worldcup and that's nothing to be proud of. You should win games with your skills, not with your acting abilities.

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posted June 27, 2006 05:54 PM

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Italy won because of their famous acting abilities. Their playing style is the least spectacular - it is quite boring to watch a team defend for the entire game hoping to score one goal on the counterattack, or to dive in the penalty zone in the last minute if the counterattack strategy doesn't work out. They got 2 of the lamest wins in this worldcup and that's nothing to be proud of. You should win games with your skills, not with your acting abilities.


Thank you, exactly what I was getting at.
Italians are just like that, acting, they know when and how to fall so it will look like a faul when it isn't, that's the only reason why the won and that's lame.

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posted June 27, 2006 07:19 PM

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man Mexico was better team in this match...
I don't think so. Only during the first 20 minutes or so. Argentina dominated the second half completely, but México did much better than I had anticipated. BTW Messi's goal at 90' should not have been ruled out.
Another mistake by a referee that could have been decisive.


yeah and the red card for Ayala in the end of the first half would change everything... you will say that because you are argentinian... but the real thing is other
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posted June 28, 2006 05:19 AM

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You should win games with your skills, not with your acting abilities.


Can someone please forward this message to Henry?

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posted June 28, 2006 06:51 AM

there was only like what, 15 seconds, the Aussies should of worried about playing defense, not tripping the guy lol.
he was not even in the front & 2 players near the net.
They made a rediculas play  & it cost them.
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posted June 28, 2006 08:06 AM

lol, put your glasses back on
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posted June 28, 2006 11:48 AM

I just can't belive that spain was knocked out... What a shame I only saw the first half, so I can't comment on the match as a whole, but from what I have seen in the torunament, Spain was one of the best teams and one of my favourites for the Championship, while the French were lucky to advance from their group with only three goals scored. A shame...
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posted June 28, 2006 01:15 PM

I must agree, although i fell ill with a cold and didn't watch the game, i always saw Spain as the better team throughout the competition. France however seemed to give mediocre performances and were lucky to pass thee group stage in my opinion. Maybe it is true when they say Spain are the greatest underachievers ever.
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posted June 28, 2006 01:24 PM

Sad but true, France didn´t win lucky, but well earned.
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posted June 28, 2006 01:27 PM
Edited by Ecoris at 13:28, 28 Jun 2006.

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Anyways, did you see the game between portugal and Netherlands?
It was the funniest game EVER.

I think "funny" is a very wrong word to use. Entertaining perhaps, but not funny. The second half had nothing to do with football, and it was a shame that the match developed like it did.
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Every second of the game I was laughing hard, the refree looked like he drank 3 litres of vodka before the game, he lost track of it when he didn't give a penalty to Holland
Which penalty?
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The Chair of FIFA said that Valentin Ivanov deserves a yellow card himself, he was the dumbest Refree ever.
The only mistake the referee made was that he didn'y give Bouhlarouz a red card when he fouled C. Ronaldo in the first half. Every other yellow card (and the eventual red ones) were well deserved. The players were really giving him a hard time.
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The ref. on Ukraine's game tho, I liked him alot, he was fair, not always though, but he didn't hand it penalties and he allowed the teams to play normally, he just saw that they are equal in power almost, so handing a penalty would have ruined the game and he knew it.
Again I don't know which penalty you're talking about. But if you think the referee thinks like you described ("the teams are equal in power so handing out a penalty will ruin it") he is a very bad referee. His view of the teams power should in no way influence his decisions.
What in the world were you thinking Dread_Knight???

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He didn't give many yellow cards and none of the teams tried to argue when there was a faul, it was a quite good game.
I'd give the refree a 4/5.
You fail to see the real problem about the referees in general. I agree that he did well, but the point is that Sepp Blatter (I think he is a complete fool) should have known better and kept his mouth shut.
His criticism of Ivanov suddenly changed the line that FIFA clearly had decided that the referees should follow (i.e. handing out more yellow cards for tackles, kicking the ball away when a free kick is given etc., etc.).
Look what happened: We've experienced a large decrease of the number of yellow/red cards given in the matches after that. This has been a great advantage for teams like Ukraine, France and Brazil who are less likely to get players banned later on in the tournament.

If Blatter feels the referees aren't good enough it's his own fault. Instead of selecting the best referees FIFA uses referees from all over the world, many many very good european referees are left out. That's why such things happens once again. Just think about the way Korea reached the semi-finals in 2002. It was a scandal. It nearly happened again when Italy and Australia played.

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But I think that the way Italy won was unfair because there was no penalty, it was a wrong desicion
But so was Materazzi's red card. You can't argue like that.

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Their playing style is the least spectacular
You obviously didn't see their game vs Ghana.

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They got 2 of the lamest wins in this worldcup and that's nothing to be proud of. You should win games with your skills, not with your acting abilities.
Which is the second one??

Italy is a very skilful team. Otherwise they wouldn't have reached the quarterfinals. And defence is after all a part of football. They played quite well so far. You're judging them because of one single episode.

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that's the only reason why the won and that's lame.
They also won because Australia couldn't break down their defence.

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yeah and the red card for Ayala in the end of the first half would change everything... you will say that because you are argentinian...
First of all I'm not Argentinian. Second, Ayala should not have had a red card, I think you mean Heinze??
They asked the danish referee Kim Milton Nielsen after the game and he agreed. The mexican player would not have had a clear goal scoring opportunity, therefore he should not have received a red card. That's the way the rules are.

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posted June 28, 2006 01:30 PM

spain i think are a bit too in experienced. most of the squad are great players like villa, torres, alonso and more but they are all very young. in the next 2 world cups spains best players will be 26-31 and have alot of experience and skill.
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posted June 28, 2006 01:34 PM

Man i love it when Ecoris comes in and busts everyones ass lol.

Correct me if i am wrong but, would i be wrong in saying that Germany have been the only consistantly well performing team in the competition?
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posted June 28, 2006 01:36 PM

argentina?
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