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Lith-Maethor
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posted September 30, 2001 04:51 AM |
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something about hydras
quoted by monstrous.com
The hydra of Lerne is a fierce creature born from Echinda and Typhon.The Hydra lives in a cave near Lernae. This water serpent was known as having multiple heads, usually numbered at nine. It was the second of Heracles' twelve labours to kill the hydra. During the fight, everytime Heracles chopped off one of the hydra's nine heads, two more grew in its place. So Heracles asked for the help of his nephew Iolaus, who would cauterize each stump when Heracles chopped off a head, preventing the regrowth of two heads. Because the last of the heads was immortal, Heracles was forced to bury it under a large boulder. After killing the Hydra, Heracles dipped his arrows in the blood of the beast. These arrows were used to kill Geryon. However, this labour was not counted as Heracles was aided by Iolaus. It is sometimes said that the hydra had the body of a dog. , The breath of the hydra is so poisonous that it could kill a man just by inhalation. The foul stench that the river of Elis, Anigrus, exudes is the smell of the decaying Hydra
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ThE_HyDrA
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posted September 30, 2001 07:56 AM |
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Quote:
quoted by monstrous.com
The hydra of Lerne is a fierce creature born from Echinda and Typhon.The Hydra lives in a cave near Lernae. This water serpent was known as having multiple heads, usually numbered at nine. It was the second of Heracles' twelve labours to kill the hydra. During the fight, everytime Heracles chopped off one of the hydra's nine heads, two more grew in its place. So Heracles asked for the help of his nephew Iolaus, who would cauterize each stump when Heracles chopped off a head, preventing the regrowth of two heads. Because the last of the heads was immortal, Heracles was forced to bury it under a large boulder. After killing the Hydra, Heracles dipped his arrows in the blood of the beast. These arrows were used to kill Geryon. However, this labour was not counted as Heracles was aided by Iolaus. It is sometimes said that the hydra had the body of a dog. , The breath of the hydra is so poisonous that it could kill a man just by inhalation. The foul stench that the river of Elis, Anigrus, exudes is the smell of the decaying Hydra
Hmmm.. cool information. I knew all of that apart from that the Hydra sometimes had the body of a dog, and the arrows were used to kill Geyron. Interesting, thanks, Lith_Maethor !!!
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"Dragons may breathe fire, but Hydras have many heads." - The Creed of Hydras
"As the Dragon drew its breath, the Hydra pounced, swiftly but powerfully, and the Dragon was defeated.”
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Gerdash
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from the Animated Peace
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posted September 30, 2001 02:15 PM |
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looked at monstrous.com mentioned by lith-maethor, and found a very nice site with lots of medieval images (well, also some modern fantasy style trash) and descriptions of mythological creatures .. wow.
my special favourite: manticore , although it's style probably belongs to a bit later date.. but maybe not, or maybe it mimics the appropriate bit earlier style with bit better quality. the homm3 manticore would surely feel ashamed if he saw that..
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Dragonlord
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posted September 30, 2001 08:13 PM |
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ok who here likes the behemoths?
Not me!! it looks much better in HOMM3!
the artists are crazy to make that a monster! at first glance you might think they made a werewolf or somthing (i thought it was a giant ape)! thats what i have to say
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Zero-Gero
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posted September 30, 2001 08:53 PM |
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I played Heroes 2 and loved the naive, catoonesque artwork, especially the way the "Town themes" were seamed together. The music, the colours and the "feel" of each town were combined to an amazingly good end result.
I also became a dedicated player of Heroes 3, despite of my opinion of the new artwork. I was struck by the lack of originality displayed by the art department. It felt like the people who came up with an original and entertaining fanatasy theme had left 3DO and were replaced by lesser gods.
Well, after seeing the new pictures of the forthcoming episode, I think that the artwork has yet again worsened.
Despite of the new possibilties regarding 3D effects, higher resolutions, etc. that have been developed in the last 6-7 years, the people who are responsible for the art have imho (until I see evidence that proves me wrong) failed to represent an attractive and more important, original fantasy theme.
Just by reading the replies to this post one realises the amount of decisions there are to be made by the creators of our favorite game. There are hundreds of good choises of fantasy creatures that you could use in this game.
But, barring aside the gameplay aspects of these creatures(should the blabla dragon be stronger than the blabla giant or: should we put a tiger with the orcs), I could not agree with the representation of these "chosen ones".
Ok, everybody is appalled by the notorious Dragon Golem (new version), that's nothing new, but just take a look at the Phoenix, the Thunderbird, the Orc, the Devil, the different heroes etc. Imho all look unfinished and unoriginal.
The screeshots of the landscape are btw so horrible they could be a repesentation of Alice in Wonderland on acid. The same goes for the town screens.
Do not get me wrong, I will probably buy the game, maybe even for the sake of tradition. But I am dissapointed by the artwork.
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Nyarlathotep
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posted October 01, 2001 12:58 AM |
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Whatever...
Once upon a time there were some scared Greek peasants(u know,them with 1 HP  who happened to eat some bread,baked from flour,wherin there were a tiny little black seed-alike thing...
That thing was of a fungus-like family,that lived off the wheat...
When the peasants had eaten the bread,they split the party and headed home...those who had eaten loafs with the grained fungus in them,began to see fabulous things in the dark...unimaginable hellishly black horrors or wonderful pink fluffy heavenly-nice looking kinda things...
Most got home safely...some told their wife and kids of their encounters,some told scolars who could write and perhaps even had the imagination to draw a picture of these fabulous tales and then some probably just shut up...
All in all...some thousand years after these tales have been told of by many mouths and written of in many important books...sometimes the hydras had 7 heads,sometimes the same number of legs or genitalia,some dragons had 3 heads,one with cold acid,one with fire and one who just taunted knights...even creatures totally without heads are told of...
Sooo...i guess i´ve come to this: The eye of the beholder is the one that matters here...and/or just a big enough portion of imagination to say to one self: yes! that´s probably how it was!
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ThE_HyDrA
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posted October 01, 2001 06:24 AM |
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Quote:
I played Heroes 2 and loved the naive, catoonesque artwork, especially the way the "Town themes" were seamed together. The music, the colours and the "feel" of each town were combined to an amazingly good end result.
I also became a dedicated player of Heroes 3, despite of my opinion of the new artwork. I was struck by the lack of originality displayed by the art department. It felt like the people who came up with an original and entertaining fanatasy theme had left 3DO and were replaced by lesser gods.
Well, after seeing the new pictures of the forthcoming episode, I think that the artwork has yet again worsened.
Despite of the new possibilties regarding 3D effects, higher resolutions, etc. that have been developed in the last 6-7 years, the people who are responsible for the art have imho (until I see evidence that proves me wrong) failed to represent an attractive and more important, original fantasy theme.
Just by reading the replies to this post one realises the amount of decisions there are to be made by the creators of our favorite game. There are hundreds of good choises of fantasy creatures that you could use in this game.
But, barring aside the gameplay aspects of these creatures(should the blabla dragon be stronger than the blabla giant or: should we put a tiger with the orcs), I could not agree with the representation of these "chosen ones".
Ok, everybody is appalled by the notorious Dragon Golem (new version), that's nothing new, but just take a look at the Phoenix, the Thunderbird, the Orc, the Devil, the different heroes etc. Imho all look unfinished and unoriginal.
The screeshots of the landscape are btw so horrible they could be a repesentation of Alice in Wonderland on acid. The same goes for the town screens.
Do not get me wrong, I will probably buy the game, maybe even for the sake of tradition. But I am dissapointed by the artwork.
Do you like the game?????
Yes, i agree that some of the screenshots of the creatures look shocking, like the troll or goblin, and the orc doen't look to flash either. But look at the Bone Dragon!!! It is excellent!! We have a mix. But i think the artwork has improved from H3 and H2.
With the screenshots of the maps. They look spectacular in my opinion. But a touch too much like AOE. But still it looks excellent. Very 3D as well, that makes it feel more real. I am also glad about the proportions of the map. Before in H2 and 3, the Hero used to be a 1/3 of the size of the castle. But in H4, well, the castles are about 20 times the size or more.
The creatures on the map also look more real.
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"Dragons may breathe fire, but Hydras have many heads." - The Creed of Hydras
"As the Dragon drew its breath, the Hydra pounced, swiftly but powerfully, and the Dragon was defeated.”
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posted October 01, 2001 11:34 AM |
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the art is not great
Zero Gero I totally agree with you, the art is not so good
Those creatures dont make our imagination go wild. most of the time when we discovered a new creature artwork, we're disappointed.
I also agree with the person "before" Zero Gero, the behemoth is ugly. Look at his long nose! He looks like a kind of homeless yeti.
Anyway, I'll buy Homm4 ass soon as it get out. I just wish the art would rock tho
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DarkTitan
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posted October 01, 2001 12:21 PM |
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so will i
what idiot would not buy heros 4. the art may not be great but i will buy it!
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Gerdash
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posted October 01, 2001 05:00 PM |
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ok who here likes the behemoths?
Not me!! it looks much better in HOMM3!
the artists are crazy to make that a monster! at first glance you might think they made a werewolf or somthing (i thought it was a giant ape)! thats what i have to say
me. of course i can see some alternatives that i might also like, but i do think the present behemoths have some style. it's the venom spawn that i'm concerned with, and some other things.
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niteshade
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posted October 01, 2001 07:37 PM |
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I think the building that creates the venom spawn looks really cool, but the venom spawn itself is kind of eh.....
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ThE_HyDrA
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The Leader of all Hydras
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posted October 02, 2001 10:28 AM |
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I think the building that creates the venom spawn looks really cool, but the venom spawn itself is kind of eh.....
.........kind of fat and blobby-looking. When i first saw that creature and realised it was a Venom Spwn, i was disgusted.
I thought it would have been skinner, with a long appendage. But it isn't.Yes, and i agree that that thing, whatever its proper name is, looks excellent and highly detailed. I also like the look of the Dragon Cave in the Asylum castle. But one of my favourites has to be that Pyramid in Stronghold. I'm pretty sure it produces Cyclops.
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"Dragons may breathe fire, but Hydras have many heads." - The Creed of Hydras
"As the Dragon drew its breath, the Hydra pounced, swiftly but powerfully, and the Dragon was defeated.”
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DarkTitan
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posted October 03, 2001 01:02 PM |
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agreed
But one of my favourites has to be that Pyramid in Stronghold. I'm pretty sure it produces Cyclops.
yeah i agree. Cyclops fits it perfectly
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ThE_HyDrA
Admirable
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The Leader of all Hydras
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posted October 03, 2001 01:39 PM |
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Ideas for more new creatures. Some creatures derived from Lith-Maethor's post. Thanks, Lith ;0)
Neutral-Level 3. Natural enemy of the Thunderbird.(2X damage.
HP:200
 Quetzalcouatl
Level 4: Neutral, Natural Enemy of the Manitcore. (Does 2X damage)
HP: 220
 Chimera
AS a Necropolis Hero
 Grim Reaper
 Shade
Preserve: Level 3. Special Ability: Stealth.
HP: 180
 River Stalker
Level 3: Neutral: Natural enemy of Giant. (Does 2X damage)
HP: 190
 Frost Giant
Preserve: Level 4. Natural Enemy of Dendroids. Does 2X damage.
HP: 600
 Dryad
Necropolis: Level 4. Natural enemy of Angels. Does 2X damage.
HP: 800
 Balrog
Preserve: Level 2. Natural enemy of Zealot. Does 2X damage.
HP: 90
 Druid
Neutral: Level 4: Natural enemy of Dragons. Does 2X damage.
HP: 550
Cold Drake
Neutral: Level 3.
HP: 190
Mandagora
Necropolis: Level 2.
HP: 100
Stormwings
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"Dragons may breathe fire, but Hydras have many heads." - The Creed of Hydras
"As the Dragon drew its breath, the Hydra pounced, swiftly but powerfully, and the Dragon was defeated.”
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Lith-Maethor
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posted October 04, 2001 08:25 AM |
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something from incubus
Hey hydra that post he posted for me! Damn.. everybody always thinks that the poster post it.. Watch for the word INCUBUS!
But i have 100000 More.. Do you want them also?? It's easy for me.. the codes are already done ;o) They are all from lufia.. The game with all monsters! I can't tell with are out because they are all in! From Elf to Black Dragon from hydra to high hydra and Scylla sphinx cyclops minotaur medusa naga siren mermaid jellyfish kelpie basilisk manticore werewolf nosferatu vampire Spiders scorpions ooze kockatrice basilisk balrog dragonknight blue/red/black/green/gold/coper/silver/platium dragons wyvern silver wyvern samurai ninja grim reaper Pegasus Unicorn nemean lion ghoul skeleton 10 golem kinds Genies efreeti Salander elementals fairyes angels devils 10 kinds of Giants Wraith centaur phoenix Storm bird(serfaco Wieker Quetzalcoatl hell hound 100 kind of flowers and tree beings wild bull gorgon sentopedez Luna bear Amazone 1000000 Fish creatures blalalallaalalaallaaallala they don't look perfect but i think they look funny.
Here are they. Have fun!
 Sea Serpent/Murene
 Wraith
 Devils Slug
 Jelly
Wave Beast
 Serpent
 Tick
 Scylla/Orkie
 Lamprey
 Tarantula
 Slug(LOL)
 Will O Wisp
 Sand Golem
 SHade
 Behemoth/Grianos
 Bone Golem/Skeleton with 4 arms
 Beholder
 Kobold
 Ghost Ship
 Tartona
 Nosferatu
 War Horse
 Silver Wyvern
 Tengu
 Pure Hate
 Night Lurker
 White Wale/Moby Dick(Lol)
 Silver Dragon
 Cyclops
 Minotaur
 Wyvern
 Red Dragon
 Desert Rose
 Aqualoi
 Serfaco/Storm Bird
 Hydra
 Gold Golem
 Puck
 Hell Hound
 CLay/ooze
 Blood BLossom
 Ghoul
 Siren
 Goblin King
 Naga
 Water Genie
 Efreet
 Jack O Lantarn
 Magma Golem
 Skull Moth
 Lizard
 Zombie
 Mummy
 Stupid Tank
 Imp
 Ninja
 Samurai
 Kockatrice
 Bat
 Kelpie
 Blue Dragon
 Vampire
 Saurus
 Stag Beetle
 Carbost
 Sea Wolf
 Cariage Of Death
 Black Dragon
 Crusader
 Balrog
 Devil
 Grim Reaper
 Green Dragon
 Copper dragon
 Storm Fish
 Wieker/Copter
 Quetzalcouatl
 Gold Dragon
 Salamader
 Hidora
 Lava Dragon
 Frogling
 Storm Genie
 Earth Genie
 Slime Prince
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ThE_HyDrA
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posted October 04, 2001 12:27 PM |
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Sorry, Incubus. I thank you for these creatures then.
The new addititons are also very striking.
Personally, my favourtie is the Scylla,Hydra and that other one called the Hidora. Thanks
Other suggestions:
Roc: Level3. HP: 170. Stronghold.
War Horse: Preserve: Level 2. HP:80
Query: Why is there only an Ice Elemenatl, and no other ones? Such as Lava, or Wind.
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"As the Dragon drew its breath, the Hydra pounced, swiftly but powerfully, and the Dragon was defeated.”
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DarkTitan
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posted October 05, 2001 11:21 AM |
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not sure
Maybe it might not be an ice elemental at all!
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Preserver
Promising
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Elemental Druid
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posted October 05, 2001 02:46 PM |
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Warhorse in Preserve?!! (why)
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ThE_HyDrA
Admirable
Famous Hero
The Leader of all Hydras
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posted October 06, 2001 05:10 AM |
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Are you saying there is, or there should be??
If you take the former, no, i don't think there is.
But if you take the latter. Hmmmmmmm. Too many horses already. Pegasus, Unicorn, Nightmare.
If you were refering to my comment. I was talking about H3, instead of Unicorn-War Unicorn; it should have been War Horse to Unicorn. Sounds better i think. There are no upgrades in H4. So it doesn't matter.
About the Ice Elemental.
It would have to be a neutral. And where are the pics of the normal elementals anyway.
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"Dragons may breathe fire, but Hydras have many heads." - The Creed of Hydras
"As the Dragon drew its breath, the Hydra pounced, swiftly but powerfully, and the Dragon was defeated.”
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Preserver
Promising
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Elemental Druid
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posted October 06, 2001 10:57 AM |
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I said...
I don't think there should be. Not in H3 or H4... (the war unicorn was one of the coolest creatures in H3)
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