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Pahomije
Pahomije


Hired Hero
posted January 09, 2011 04:29 PM

Well I think the new faction is amazing, despite the fact that maybe either the river spirits or ice maidens are redundant, being similar in concept. It would seem that the lineup potentially has 3 casters and 2 or 3 elementals, which is interesting for combat purposes. Can't wait to see what the racials are.

I wish people would get over the jungle terrain thing, because it's the closest it can get to water (and we know water can't be a terrain due to game-play issues). Ice (maidens) has everything to do with water and IMHO, this faction fits it Elemental Dragon theme best of all, when you think about it. Elves worship the Earth Dragon, yet they are not made of, nor live in earth. Same goes for Dwarves and fire, as well as Humans and Air. Nobody has ever complained about their native terrains, and now you have a problem with water associated faction and jungle as a native terrain.

I too am curious about a few things, but I have faith that Ubi came up with nice lore to support them. For instance, I agree that there are cooler water creatures, but perhaps the human hero who leads Nagas in the campaign needed ones that can act best on dry soil.
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evinin
evinin


Supreme Hero
Servant of Asha
posted January 09, 2011 04:48 PM

People I just don't get it!!!
How the Hell is the Spirit like the Glory? Why do you think such stupid things? Yes, there are elemental like and females and so what? I don't see any problem with that. What is wrong with you? Every female creature looks the same or what?
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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted January 09, 2011 04:56 PM

Yup all females look the same to me!

No seriously I don't like the Spring spirit because it is just a water elemental, noting fancy at all.
But I will have to wait until I get to see their animation and their abilities
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blizz
blizz


Known Hero
of temper grace
posted January 09, 2011 05:03 PM

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People I just don't get it!!!
How the Hell is the Spirit like the Glory? Why do you think such stupid things? Yes, there are elemental like and females and so what? I don't see any problem with that. What is wrong with you? Every female creature looks the same or what?

They are similar because they are both elementals. You can clearly see they both have almost identical tatoos. If they follow the patern we should see one of those in every faction worshiping an elemental dragon.

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted January 09, 2011 05:25 PM

Its fanny that the Naga faction actually has more clearly reconisiable female units than the Matriarchal Dark elves

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KingImp
KingImp


Famous Hero
posted January 09, 2011 05:25 PM

I'll just repeat what I said over at Celestial Heavens.

This artwork definitely doesn't look the same as what has been released by Ubi, so I'm gonna reserve judgement until their version comes out. Right now, these look very primitive to me and it wouldn't be fair to judge if this was a very early version.

Also, which unit do you all think will be the shooter? I'm having a hard time telling from this artwork. If I had to hazard a guess, it would be the Coral/Pearl Maidens or maybe the Snow/Ice Maidens.

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alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
and Light
posted January 09, 2011 05:29 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 17:30, 09 Jan 2011.

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While i'm mostly being the feminist biatch myself, this time I agree with most boys.

This is just one pretty damsel in distress too many, if it was an ugly sea hag I would have supported it.

But my personal opinion wants more sea-based creatures in this game, this faction WAS the perfect opportunity for that... but they spoiled it by adding 3 miss water fashion creatures into the line-up.
This is a war game, not a miss universum contest, what role does succubi have left? NOTHING as all female creatures in this game are miss HOMM 2011... well except for my personal champion, Vile Breeder.

I want more female designers... then we probably see more cool monsters and male studs in the game, all these pretty females make me wonder what happend to the ugly ones... (WE LOVE YOU BREEDER!)
Nightterror, I love your posting style, this post has my total stamp of approval.
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Seddy
Seddy


Known Hero
Spinner of delicious cupcakes
posted January 09, 2011 06:12 PM

I actually acgree with Nighty on this. Away with the pretty girls that never did an honest days work (who could if you want to keep that skintone in a medieval wartorn setting?)

Is Ubihole trying to do some fanservice and get some pixilated boobs of elementals to get little teenage boys to buy the game? If you want to play with naked chicks in a fantasy setting, there's always Dragon Age.

Creatures are supposed to be creatures, not models. Muscular males can somehow be explained (muscles are needed for physical fighting) but it's unlikely that they'd starve themselves enough to be so defined. I feel the poor females are torn away from the more independent role and becoming pretty things that can't slice men and monsters to shreds (oh Naga queen... you rocked) but only support the "real" fighters (manly, manly men!).

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VokialBG
VokialBG

Hero of Order
First in line
posted January 09, 2011 06:26 PM

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http://www.mightandmagic.com/heroes6


At the "Legendary Heroes from Might&Magic!" - no Tarnum?
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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted January 09, 2011 06:27 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 18:29, 09 Jan 2011.

For the record, while I'm totally satisfied with the other units - Kirin's my favourite Champion and has great abilities - I too was disappointed (alongside others) in all the duplicated water-women from the outset, along with the lack of any H3 Fortress flavour. God, too many water ladies. I think it would be a fantastic faction with just one extra "beast".

I would have preferred to replace the "Spirits" or "Maidens" with non-anthropomorphs, Basilisks being one potential replacement. Some of us have still been bugging them to turn the Ice Maiden models into neutrals or heroes, because they're way out of place here. I guess you can still lobby for getting rid of one of the female spirits, with my support. Doubt it will be changed, but you can try.

And yes, the names are really outdated. The finalised ones are a bit less mundane and more oriental.
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Kenishi
Kenishi


Known Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
HC SUPPORTER
posted January 09, 2011 06:38 PM

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Ow I forgot about my favorite little cutie mr.sharky, and my four armed princes on their big tail!

They are cute, but not human at all, while i'm a crazy as hell, I still date humans... (how utterly boring, I can hear your thoughts)

Anyway there are enough ugly men on that list and I love them for being so ugly!
But the women in this game are all like some disney princesses, we probably see some clocks, bed pillows and pyjama's with those cutie homm6 girls on them some time after homm6 gets released...

MR.DISNEY PREPARE FOR SOME SERIOUS COMPETITION!


   Yes I see your logic Kappa - Frog Princess (or Princess frog) - Disney.

   Joke aside I hope well see really intense pillow fights among the girls of HoMM6 (except the breeder she doesn't play fair she uses imps instead of pillows).

   But seriously fan service is ok until a point ... don't get me wrong a but a bit cleavage never hurt but taking it to far turns in something totally different and basically you lose the objective so unless this are all the factions and no modification will be done we better get used to them.

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Yeah, I hope so as well. Actually I don't know if u tolerate praising other game outors, but I think that Ubi should learn a bit from the advertising of StarCraft2 from Blizzard. Specificly i think about the Battle Report maches. Think we were even more excited about the game if we saw some duel maches of the testers


   Indeed the marketing was OK to bad the single player turned out so sukey (Fore me was a huge disappointment  luckily the multilayer was ok  ... makes me wonder what they'll do with the other 2 campaigns coming up since the multi. will be the same !?)
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DeadAce
DeadAce


Adventuring Hero
posted January 09, 2011 06:49 PM
Edited by deadace at 18:51, 09 Jan 2011.

I really like the new faction, but I totally agree that there are to many whimsical girls!

Replace the Snow/Ice Maiden and make her a neutral instead! She doesn't fit into the jungle tileset being a frost unit! Give us a beast instead, don't really care if it be a squid, basilisk, fish creature, just something more interesting and varied!

Another option would be to make the water elemental male! I like elementals, and a waterbased one fits perfectly with this faction, just not another girl!

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Omnipotence
Omnipotence


Hired Hero
posted January 09, 2011 07:06 PM
Edited by Omnipotence at 19:13, 09 Jan 2011.

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I really like the new faction, but I totally agree that there are to many whimsical girls!

Replace the Snow/Ice Maiden and make her a neutral instead! She doesn't fit into the jungle tileset being a frost unit! Give us a beast instead, don't really care if it be a squid, basilisk, fish creature, just something more interesting and varied!

Another option would be to make the water elemental male! I like elementals, and a waterbased one fits perfectly with this faction, just not another girl!

Or just do something wild and crazy and not reference it to any gender! It's a freaking elemental it does NOT need to be humanoid at all. Besides, how do you make one of the most raging and powerful elements in the world (water) a peaceful little school gal with swirly tattoos and water for legs? The ice design should replace the water elemental, water should just be thrown out all together, and just add an asian komodo dragon-esque creature or something! I know that these are very early stages and that Ubihole has been trying their best but come on! So much potential, so many possibilities with the most abundent area of life in the world (oceans) and yet they choose to make a water princess...

Oh and please change the ice/snow face, looks like a high emo girl or something... Where's the white witch when you need her?!
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Yaeliccc
Yaeliccc


Known Hero
Undead, but warm and fuzzy
posted January 09, 2011 07:32 PM

Its actually very simple to turn them into the best faction, all that needs to be done is

snow maiden needs to get her legs instead of walking on clouds and she needs to be able to throw her fans as well as go assassin melee style.. her upgrade requires some changes as well

spring girly needs to either be replaced by another creature or to be replaced by a male or a genderless version of a water elemental which will have a threatening demeanor

medusa look alike needs to get all vicious, misterious, threatening...

if they do that, we'll have one hell of a faction, if they dont change anything we'll be left with a faction that looks... well 2 cute... how am i gonna go to war with maidens ? are we gonna have a tea party with our enemies, way too cute to fight anything

if anybody out there doesnt agree with me, feel free to speak your mind... and then take a coctail of aprox 100 pills of your choice

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Omnipotence
Omnipotence


Hired Hero
posted January 09, 2011 07:36 PM
Edited by Omnipotence at 19:39, 09 Jan 2011.

I think it's funny that they take the barbarians and make them even more beastly and fierce, the undead are made "deadlier" , and the demons are made insane fiery maniacs (not just in reference to the creature), yet they then take the knights and make them shiney and pretty... Something just doesn't add up...

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and then take a coctail of aprox 100 pills of your choice  

Haha I think I'll pass... But I completely agree with you, the only parts of snow maiden I dislike are the drugged emo princess face and the clouds as legs. The latter just doesn't make sense and looks very strange.
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Deathy
Deathy


Known Hero
Angels Galore
posted January 09, 2011 08:40 PM

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we want good swordsmen or male monks with "destructive magic"


this part is something i can't really agree with

although i can understand people disliking some units from haven, i definetly don't want them to bring back any generic monk or swordsman type of unit again. we've had those for like 3 games straight(5 games for swordsmen) and one of the reasons i love heroes 6 so far is exactly the fact that they are trying to change haven as much as they possibly can while still keeping it haven.

design for units like glories and priestesses might not be the best around but it still good enough and beats having "the same monk from heroes 3 cept with better graphics" IMO because atleast those new designs are original and they are trying something different.

only way i would want anykind of swordsman to come back is if they make the unit use a 2-handed greatsword instead of the generic sword and shield.

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Charrclaw
Charrclaw


Known Hero
posted January 09, 2011 09:09 PM

I kinda like it, but just cut the Spring spirit ( Ice Maiden should be tolerated). They should replace Spirit with some sort of Ice-made beast. Something like Avalanche from GW or if they like putting elementals in factions just ice/water elemental...


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Frederik360
Frederik360


Adventuring Hero
Looking to the sky
posted January 09, 2011 09:20 PM

Oh me! Pick me!

(Gets picked and does a victory dance, before rising from his seat.)

Since everyone has had their time to comment and talk about their opinions I think it is time i started snowin about some of my not-favourite, non-likeable,I-find-them-disgusting things.

To start of my usual problem(which I have talked about before)are the heroes so far. Even though this series is called "Heroes", then the heroes actually first started playing a more active and becoming a greater part of the game in heroes 4 and 5 IMO. And before going on I have to say, that I am one of those people who loved H5. I HATE, that heroes are going back to the generic H3 approach with a guy riding on a horse no matter what faction he/she belongs to. Every god damn hero is looking more and more generic despite being from different factions. You gotta admit there isn't that much difference to how the heroes look despite their clothes? Even the orc looks like a human with a skull on their face, what happened to orcs being more demonic than ever like the cyclops<3. And if they have removed the different mounts from each faction I might actually go into a frenzy.

The baddest villian(not in a good way) so far of this human-generic disease is the hell knight, which is just a red and brown coloured paladin with a couple of hithces and dents in his armor. I am still cautiosly positive since they haven't showed off the magic type hero of inferno yet, but god damn ubihole if they give me another hell sorcere human look-a-like thing. They already had an awesome demon lord in H5, why change the base? Just give it a graphics overhaul and tweak it!  

Next point goes out to black hole for using the copy-paste approach to some, yes I am talking about a lot of creatures here(Ghoul, Maniac, Tormentor, Radiant glory, Ice Maiden, River spirit). We hear of great creature ideas every second day here on the forums so how come some people, who gets paid for doing this can't come up with 2 creatures that aren't completely alike.They should seriously hire someone to scout the forums of potential creatures, which they could use.(No offense intended towards the insiders)
Seriously I think we need the "Nightterror-argument", which simply says:"Add more Creature-creatures". In the end I get tired of looking at 2 orcs with 2 different weapons, which also goes for the  inferno and the sanctuary/naga(humans don't count, they all look the same to me anyway).

Finally I want snow about ubihole.
First of all how come want ubihole us to give feedback and help them create a better heroes, when we have nothing to look at. I am all open to giving suggestion on changes and what needs changin, but how on eath do they expect us to give any feedback on anything if we can't see anything. To add to this, how could they even have the time to change anything except names if they revealed the naga in january. The game is schedueled to release march-april(at least I think so) and usually the last 1-2 months are used to polish games and make sure there are no bugs. Even if they had released the naga by now, then they wouldn't have the option of changing them due to the time. Same thing might as well go for stronghold.

To sum it up: "WHY DO YOU ASK FOR OUR FEEDBACK? IF IT IS NOT GONNA CHANGE A THING!

Propably gonna post my opinion on the naga soon, but can't do it in this post since it is getting a bit too long.

Some will agree, some will disagree, some might flame, some might back me up, but at least I said MY opinion.      



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Foonlegacy
Foonlegacy


Hired Hero
posted January 09, 2011 09:31 PM
Edited by Foonlegacy at 21:44, 09 Jan 2011.

I will have to read reviews of the game before playing now, because all interest has been lost and they are not even doing a good job on promoting it.  I think I will stick to Heroes 5 and Starcraft 2 for now.
Also, the Shark Warrior HAS to be a joke...maybe they could change the design to this.
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Avatarius
Avatarius

Tavern Dweller
posted January 09, 2011 09:57 PM

I just saw all the artworks and I cannot help but notice that it seems to turn more and more into a game which is primarily made for children or young teenagers. The game not only seems to become less complex, but especially the artworks of the 5th faction appear as though they were taken out of the bedroom of a 5-year-old child. Surprisingly, most of you approve of the artwork, but I cannot take it seriously at all.
Moreover, there is a noticeable manga influence which I absolutely hate. Yes, this is also a matter of taste, but essentially I feel more and more that the final game will be a huge letdown for those of a more complex taste.

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