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mvassilev
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posted November 05, 2014 03:11 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 21:40, 12 Nov 2014.

"A saint said 'Let the perfect city rise.
Here needs no long debate on subtleties,
Means, end,
Let us intend
That all be clothed and fed; while one remains
Hungry our quarreling but mocks his pains.
So all will labor to the good
In one phalanx of brotherhood.'

A man cried out 'I know the truth, I, I,
Perfect and whole. He who denies
My vision is a madman or a fool
Or seeks some base advantage in his lies.
All peoples are a tool that fits my hand
Cutting you each and all
Into my plan.'

They were one man."
- David Friedman

"We are not in the position of children who have been given portions of pie by someone who now makes last minute adjustments to rectify careless cutting. There is no central distribution, no person or group entitled to control all the resources, jointly deciding how they are to be doled out. What each person gets, he gets from others who give to him in exchange for something, or as a gift. In a free society, diverse persons control different resources, and new holdings arise out of the voluntary exchanges and actions of persons. There is no more a distributing or distribution of shares than there is a distributing of mates in a society in which persons choose whom they shall marry. The total result is the product of many individual decisions which the different individuals involved are entitled to make." - Robert Nozick
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artu
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posted November 17, 2014 01:21 PM

It's not being an intellectual which makes you socially impaired, it's the lack of desire to be desired.

      - A friend's facebook status, I dont know if it's original or quoted from some other source but Google search gives no results.
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posted November 20, 2014 11:12 AM

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"The government shut down just shows that our government doesn't function correctly!"  That's one interpretation, the other is that when a car starts to smoke, you pull over and fix it, you don't keep going till it explodes, though I recognize the explosion makes for better TV.  What you're seeing is the ordinary back room realigning of interests and powers, but this time trying desperately to hide from a voyeuristic media that caters to a demographic, i.e. you, that believes that never more than three at a time colorful but poorly understood #issues will eventually get us to Mars.  "We shouldn't go to Mars."  You got your wish.

Americans, by which I mean a populace propagandized to the Left or Right or Middle, cynically believe that "wanting to get re-elected" or arrogance or ideology is what's to blame, as if 500+ career Machiavellians are too stupid to know what an underemployed theater grad knows.  "They should just do the right thing!"  Who will let them?  You?

The shut down was the inevitable consequence of a government not permitted to compromise, smothered by the oppressive gaze of a kamikaze media that will kill itself and your country just to get a headline today.  I'm starting to wonder if the reason it is always pretty white girls who get kidnapped is that the media is the one kidnapping them.  And you blamed Bear Stearns for being too focused on short term profits?  CNN's time horizon is your next micturition.   The media demands partisanship, conflict, opposing sides, but despite having 24 hours to fill will never, ever explain the interplay between complex issues, preferring to feature them in segments while hyping them to a crisis.   Imagine trying to have sex always on camera, and always with a goat, and always with some know-it-all screaming at you, "get hard now!  NOW!  8 seconds left!  NOW!  What's wrong with you?!"  Jesus, can I take a minute and do this privately?  "Transparency!"

If Senator X "makes a concession" the relevant media will proclaim him a loser and a coward, they don't want representatives, they want cage fighters.  There's no reward for compromise and there's no safe place to attempt it, either.  This is 100% your fault, "I can't believe how stupid these people are!"  It's great how you can't find employment but have time to micromanage the U.S. Senate. #outrage

If you want to know what political career disaster looks like, have an infinitely leggy ex-sorority girl in flesh toned Manolos sitting behind a glass table in perfect lighting announce to 50% of America that you were beat by an old woman from California or an old man from Ohio.  "Ha ha, what a cuckold!  Back to you, Kent."   You blame Congress?   They are the ones who "don't get it"?  When a representative democracy gets crippled by what amounts to a 3x3 magic square, it's not that they can't figure out the solution, the solution is easy, the answer is 15 and the five is a gimme, we just need someone to dare allow himself to be filmed putting the 1 on the left or the right or the center so we can finish the other 13 numbers and go bomb Syria.   "Wait, what?  I don't understand."  Yes, that's my point exactly.
- Alone
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posted November 22, 2014 07:51 AM

"If you want to be good to the environment, stay away from it. Move to high-rise apartments surrounded by plenty of concrete. Americans who settle in leafy, low-density suburbs will leave a significantly deeper carbon footprint, it turns out, than Americans who live cheek by jowl in urban towers. And a second paradox follows from the first. When environmentalists resist new construction in their dense but environmentally friendly cities, they inadvertently ensure that it will take place somewhere else - somewhere with higher carbon emissions. Much local environmentalism, in short, is bad for the environment." - Edward Glaeser
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted November 23, 2014 04:28 PM

The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.

- Isaac Asimov


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posted November 23, 2014 05:21 PM

There is no future if you do not have a real history
- My pants

It's not a joke, unfortunately I didn't find the one who said it.
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posted November 28, 2014 12:52 AM

Started reading Nietzche:

Quote:
"All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted November 28, 2014 01:11 AM

Nice to know your idea of a great quote isnt limited with ordinary, humdrum statements that boils down to "liberalism is awesome."
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posted November 28, 2014 01:13 AM
Edited by xerox at 01:15, 28 Nov 2014.

I started reading Friedrich Nietzsche and I think his views are very, very consistent with libertarian phiilosophy of extreme individualism.


his views are also very inspiring to me as a very ambitious and narcissistic person
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posted November 28, 2014 01:22 AM

Nope, Nietzsche is a perspectivist and the only real thing he has in common with the liberterianism of today is his distaste and scorn on traditional thought, specifically if it's religion based. He sees it as an entrapment for a free mind and will. But that's quite a no-brainer, isn't it.
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posted November 28, 2014 01:27 AM
Edited by xerox at 01:28, 28 Nov 2014.

How is that not compatible with libertarianism?

Not all libertarians believe in natural rights or that the non-aggression principle is some divine, objective right. It's just a set of crafted principles that are very useful if you want a society where man is free from men. Where the übermensch can thrive.
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posted November 28, 2014 01:36 AM
Edited by artu at 12:03, 28 Nov 2014.

Well, I mentioned the ONLY compatible part, not the non-compatible. Nietzche's individual is not contract based, "it" is an achievment, a destination for future generations. It's even closer to the idealism of Platon in a sense but it's definitely not a philosophy about how property prevails over everything. Right or wrong, liberterians have some principles they consider timeless and reason based. Nietzche is a philosopher of will rather than reason.
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posted December 18, 2014 03:31 AM

This:


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posted December 18, 2014 04:31 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 21:16, 18 Jan 2015.

"It is often said that the government derives its powers from a 'social contract', whereby the people have granted these special powers to the government. The only problem with this theory is that it is factually false - I have not in fact agreed to have a government, to pay taxes, or to obey the government's laws.

A number of suggestions have been made as to how, despite my protestations to the contrary, I really have agreed to all those things. Here I will just mention one, because it is the one most often heard in conversation. This is the suggestion that I have 'implicitly' agreed to have a government merely by residing in the government’s territory. ('If you don't want a government, simply move to Antarctica!') Very briefly, the problem with this suggestion is that it presupposes that the state owns all the territory over which it claims jurisdiction, or that for some other reason it has the right to exclude people from that area. But there is no way to establish such a right on the part of the state, unless one has already shown that the state has legitimate authority. This therefore cannot be presupposed in an argument designed to establish the state's authority. In this case, the statist's claim seems analogous to the leader of a protection racket claiming that his victims have voluntarily agreed to pay him protection money, merely by living in their own houses." - Michael Huemer

"If a large enough group of someones is willing to kill you for saying something, then it's something that almost certainly needs to be said, because otherwise the violent have veto power over liberal civilization, and when that scenario obtains it isn't really a liberal civilization any more. Again, liberalism doesn't depend on everyone offending everyone else all the time, and it’s okay to prefer a society where offense for its own sake is limited rather than pervasive. But when offenses are policed by murder, that’s when we need more of them, not less, because the murderers cannot be allowed for a single moment to think that their strategy can succeed." - Ross Douthat
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posted February 03, 2015 01:20 AM

"I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an emperor. That’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone - if possible - Jew, Gentile - black man - white. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each other’s happiness - not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.

Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical. Our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery we need humanity. More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost....

!/images/photos/0000/0874/Great_Dictator_Pub_140-6_normal.jpg! The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men - cries out for universal brotherhood - for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world - millions of despairing men, women, and little children - victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people.

To those who can hear me, I say - do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed - the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish. .....

Soldiers! don’t give yourselves to brutes - men who despise you - enslave you - who regiment your lives - tell you what to do - what to think and what to feel! Who drill you - diet you - treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don’t hate! Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural! Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty!

In the 17th Chapter of St Luke it is written: “the Kingdom of God is within man” - not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people have the power - the power to create machines. The power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure.

Then - in the name of democracy - let us use that power - let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world - a decent world that will give men a chance to work - that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfil that promise. They never will!

Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people! Now let us fight to fulfil that promise! Let us fight to free the world - to do away with national barriers - to do away with greed, with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness. Soldiers! in the name of democracy, let us all unite!" - Charlie chaplin

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posted February 09, 2015 04:40 PM

"The conventional answer to the question about why we want to see cruelty and pain in art is that, in some complicated way, it makes us more wholesome." Edmund Burke
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posted February 24, 2015 08:26 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 08:26, 24 Feb 2015.

Poetry is allowed ITT, right?

"Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.
"
- William Ernest Henley
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Once upon a time
posted March 02, 2015 02:34 PM

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...Today the expenditure of billions of dollars every year on weapons acquired for the purpose of making sure we never need to use them is essential to the keeping of peace. But surely the acquisition of such idle stockpiles—which can only destroy and never create—is not the only, much less the most efficient, means of assuring peace.

I speak of peace, therefore, as the necessary rational end of rational men. I realize the pursuit of peace is not as dramatic as the pursuit of war—and frequently the words of the pursuers fall on deaf ears. But we have no more urgent task.

Some say that it is useless to speak of peace or world law or world disarmament—and that it will be useless until the leaders of the Soviet Union adopt a more enlightened attitude. I hope they do. I believe we can help them do it. But I also believe that we must reexamine our own attitudes—as individuals and as a nation—for our attitude is as essential as theirs. And every graduate of this school, every thoughtful citizen who despairs of war and wishes to bring peace, should begin by looking inward—by examining his own attitude towards the possibilities of peace, towards the Soviet Union, towards the course of the Cold War and towards freedom and peace here at home.

First: Examine our attitude toward peace itself. Too many of us think it is impossible. Too many think it is unreal. But that is a dangerous, defeatist belief. It leads to the conclusion that war is inevitable—that mankind is doomed—that we are gripped by forces we cannot control.

We need not accept that view. Our problems are manmade—therefore, they can be solved by man. And man can be as big as he wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings. Man's reason and spirit have often solved the seemingly unsolvable—and we believe they can do it again....


American President John F. Kennedy, American University Address, June
10th, 1963

The Speech  http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Strategy_of_Peace

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posted March 02, 2015 03:33 PM

artu said:
It's not being an intellectual which makes you socially impaired, it's the lack of desire to be desired.

      - A friend's facebook status, I dont know if it's original or quoted from some other source but Google search gives no results.


I would say life sometimes looks a bit too much like a popularity contest and Facebook can be a sad example of it.

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posted March 02, 2015 05:49 PM

"If your Facebook is Wal-Mart-quality, it's because you have Wal-Mart-quality friends." - a friend
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