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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted March 23, 2020 07:41 AM |
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Since there are vampires in Heroes 3, why not add werewolves? They could be a new neutral level 5 creature. (or perhaps belong in a new faction?)
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LordInsane
Known Hero
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posted March 23, 2020 11:35 AM |
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phoenix4ever said:
Since there are vampires in Heroes 3, why not add werewolves? They could be a new neutral level 5 creature. (or perhaps belong in a new faction?)
Werewolves are also in Might and Magic, including MM6 (eg. already NWC-canon as existing on Enroth).
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VampMarcie
Hired Hero
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posted March 23, 2020 09:28 PM |
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Mermaids are also a possibility!
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted March 23, 2020 11:10 PM |
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Uh, I would'nt mind mermaids either. They could have some sort of charm ability and they would actually be perfect for HotA.
So would Sea Monster or Kraken.
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 23, 2020 11:35 PM |
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Maybe not looking "that" fishy, but I would like mermaids in HotA. Some other people suggested this too in different places.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted March 24, 2020 08:27 AM |
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Some neutrals with an actual 'native' terrain would be nice.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted March 24, 2020 08:46 AM |
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All neutrals should have native terrain actually.
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avatar
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 24, 2020 08:51 AM |
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Edited by avatar at 08:55, 24 Mar 2020.
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What for? Neutrals are neutrals. They feel good (neutral) at every terrain and don't need home terrain
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted March 24, 2020 08:57 AM |
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To make them just as attractive as "town creatures".
When Iron Golems are in snow, they are even faster than Gold and Diamond Golems, it makes no sense. Or perhaps Gold and Diamond Golems should just get +1 speed.
Possible terrains for neutral creatures:
Peasant - Grass.
Halfling - Moves to Factory and becomes Wasteland in HotA.
Rogue - Dirt perhaps.
Boar - Dirt perhaps.
Leprechaun - Grass.
Nomad - Sand.
Mummy - Sand.
Sharpshooter - Grass.
Satyr - Grass.
Steel Golem - Snow. (or Sand?)
Troll - Rough.
Gold Golem - Snow. (or Sand?)
Fangarm - Swamp.
Diamond Golem - Snow. (or Sand?)
Enchanter - Snow.
Faerie Dragon - Highland.
Rust Dragon - Wasteland or Subterranean.
Crystal Dragon - Rough perhaps. (Azure should be Snow)
Azure Dragon - Snow.
Werewolf (Level 5) - Dirt.
Mermaid (Level 4 or 5), Sea Monster (Level 7), Kraken (Level 7) - Sea if possible, otherwise Swamp.
Succubus (Level 4 or 5) Lava.
Nightmare (Level 6) - Lava.
Scorpion (Level 4-6) - Wasteland.
Chimera (Level 6) - Subterranean.
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Lord_Immortal
Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
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posted March 25, 2020 06:24 PM |
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I compiled a list of Might & Magic (6-8)(few from 9) & Heroes(1-4) creatures not represented in Heroes III HotA, NOT Sci-Fi monsters or unrevealed Factory creatures and NOT repeating the same creature:
MM6:
Brain/Blood/Soul Suckers
Cannibals
Giant Snakes
Giant Spiders
Female Druid (could be the new female Druid hero)
Agar's Pets
Kreegans
Winged Kreegans
Fakirs (Followers of Baa)
Thuggees (Female Assassins)
Oozes
Female Warrior
Various types of Human warriors/guards/soldiers (can be some sort of mercenary)
Wyrms (Wingless dragons)
Werewolves
Giant Rats
Priests of Baa
MM7:
Bowmen (can be some sort of mercenary)
Light Elemental/Wisp
Elven Lancer
Acolyte of the Sun
Acolyte of the Moon
Ghouls
Female Necromancer (could replace Wraith as female Necromancer hero)
Robber/Raider/Bandit
Female Conscript/Soldier/Fighter
Thief/Rogue/Master Thief (can be called "Thief" and be un-upgraded Rogue)
Kreegan
Female Warlock
MM8:
Acolytes of the Sun (MM8 Version)
Avians/Birdmen
Cuoatls
Crystal Walkers
Dark Dwarves
Dark Elves
Direwolves
Necromancers (could replace the Vampire Lord as Male Necromancer hero)
Fear/Terror/Abomination
Serpent Men
Salamanders
Tritons
Troll Warriors (with leather breastplate and ram-headed club can be the troll upgrade)
Mercenaries (with horned helmets)
Wererats
Dragonslayers
Wasps
MM9:
Idk well this game and I don't have many images so I'll try to make a list of what I can understand:
Yeti
Succubus
Lizard-Orcs
Half-Orcs
Cutpurse/Burglar/Bandit (Nordic themed warrior, could be un-upg. version of MM8 mercenary)
Gezzampt
(Various other monsters I guess what I see from screens)
Heroes 1:
Nomad - Heroes 1 nomad can be used as an upgrade of the current Nomad.
Heroes 2:
Mummy - Unupgraded Mummy can be more like Heroes 2. The current one could be its upgrade.
Nomad - Mongol-like Nomads can be a good neutral unit or for an asian-themed town.
Ghost - a nice addition to the list of neutral units.
Heroes 4:
Berserker
Mermaid
Cetus (Sea Monster)
Mechanical Dragon
Venom Spawn (probably related to MM8 Fear/Terror/Abomination)
Ice Demon
Nightmare
White Tiger
Mantis
Waspwort
Evil Sorceress (maybe upgrade to MM7 female warlock)
Gargantuan
Frenzied Gnasher
Is almost 60-70 unique units overall. Wanting one could make completely new towns of lore-friendly creatures OR transform all existing towns in Heroes IV-style (meaning with about 4 alternative creatures per town).
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 25, 2020 06:55 PM |
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Lord_Immortal said:
I compiled a list of Might & Magic (6-8)(few from 9) & Heroes(1-4) creatures not represented in Heroes III HotA, NOT Sci-Fi monsters or unrevealed Factory creatures and NOT repeating the same creature:
MM6:
Brain/Blood/Soul Suckers
Cannibals
Giant Snakes
Giant Spiders
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Aren't Sea Serpents basically Giant Snakes?
And some of your units are just boring to include when there are similar ones around (just some of them, not all). Many of them are cool though, but we can't just add a heap of troops into H3.
But your post was an ideas post, right?
phoenix4ever said:
To make them just as attractive as "town creatures".
When Iron Golems are in snow, they are even faster than Gold and Diamond Golems, it makes no sense. Or perhaps Gold and Diamond Golems should just get +1 speed.
Possible terrains for neutral creatures:
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Crystal Dragon - Grass or Snow perhaps.
Azure Dragon - Snow.
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Crystal Dragons are confirmed to be snow, since they are created by wizards.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted March 25, 2020 07:07 PM |
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FirePaladin said:
Crystal Dragons are confirmed to be snow, since they are created by wizards.
Yeah I know and it makes sense, but I'm not sure if both Crystal and Azure should be snow. Frozen Cliffs also implies snow.
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 25, 2020 07:24 PM |
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Then it seems to be okay. Azures need to be snow at least.
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VampMarcie
Hired Hero
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posted March 26, 2020 03:02 PM |
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FirePaladin said:
Then it seems to be okay. Azures need to be snow at least.
Then I'd also say Fairy Dragons should be native to Highlands and Rust Dragons native to Sand/Subterranean.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted March 26, 2020 03:23 PM |
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I also suggested Highland for Faerie Dragons, Rust could be Wasteland/Sub. (Nomad and Mummy should be Sand.)
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planetavril
Famous Hero
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posted March 26, 2020 04:40 PM |
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for wasteland, a steampunk dragon with a little rusty iron would fit
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted March 26, 2020 04:55 PM |
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HotA Crew could'nt you PLEASE PLEASE do something to improve Eagle Eye, First Aid and Ballistics? Or maybe combine Eagle Eye and Scholar or First Aid and Ballistics.
These 3 skills really suck! 7 heroes even specialise in Eagle Eye and 3 in First Aid. (Learning also sucks, but I already made that decent myself.)
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 26, 2020 04:58 PM |
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phoenix4ever said:
HotA Crew could'nt you PLEASE PLEASE do something to improve Eagle Eye, First Aid and Ballistics? Or maybe combine Eagle Eye and Scholar or First Aid and Ballistics.
These 3 skills really suck! 7 heroes even specialise in Eagle Eye and 3 in First Aid. (Learning also sucks, but I already made that decent myself.)
Thankfully, they said they are gonna do a lot of improving to the skills, either in the next release or the following.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted March 26, 2020 05:00 PM |
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I really hope Eagle Eye, First Aid and Ballistics are next.
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 26, 2020 05:03 PM |
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phoenix4ever said:
I really hope Eagle Eye, First Aid and Ballistics are next.
Me too, me too. If I remember correctly, they actually said something about them on the russian forum (a month ago, I dunno, something like that).
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