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Ben80
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posted May 04, 2022 06:37 PM |
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Edited by Ben80 at 18:44, 04 May 2022.
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Ghost said:
@The Soviet army did not lose in Afghanistan.@
Fully wrong! The same American fan or maybe dweller is disagree with Vietnam war.. I've book, it tell that USSR lost 1 trillion dollar in Afghan war without result. And USA lost 2 trillion dollar in Vietnam war, but government wanted to continue. Americans didn't want to.. By short..
I gave you clear criteria - the Soviet army controlled the entire country before leaving, and the Americans were simply thrown out of Vietnam - the Vietnamese entered Saigon in tanks (while the Americans were there). The fact that you do not want to understand the obvious because of your Russophobia is your problem.
The result was a peaceful life that the USSR established in the country. Built schools, hospitals. We know how to establish a peaceful life, and the United States can only destroy.
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Ben80
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posted May 04, 2022 07:16 PM |
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Edited by Ben80 at 19:22, 04 May 2022.
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The regime of Najibula lasted so long after the departure of the Soviet troops precisely because results were achieved in building a peaceful life - many Afghans had something to lose, and they resisted the Mujahideen. And the Americans did nothing for Afghanistan, so their henchmen were defeated there immediately after the Americans left (although no, I'm wrong, under the Americans, narcotic production in Afghanistan increased many times over).
Since we are talking about Afghanistan. In fact, wars of this type are won completely, but for a long time, and the political will of the leadership is required. Examples include the struggle of the Red Army against the Mujahideen in Central Asia (1918-1938) and the struggle of the Red Army against Bandera in Western Ukraine (1945-1960).
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JollyJoker
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posted May 04, 2022 08:17 PM |
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You are utterly incredible because someone who allegedly supports the USSR cannot support current Russia which is the opposite of everything the ideal of the USSR stood for.
Afghanistan had been on a good way even before the USSR staged the communist coup - which wasn't bad for the country either, the difference being only that the country leaned to the USSR instead of the West.
Of coursem the West (the US) equipped the Taliban with weapons against the USSR which spectacularly backfired on them. Which was as fair and equitable as the US getting bloodied in Vietnam.
Which is what will happen with Russia in the Ukraine as well.
The Nazis are sitting in Moscow, not in Kyev.
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Ghost
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posted May 04, 2022 08:42 PM |
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Minion
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posted May 04, 2022 08:44 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
The Nazis are sitting in Moscow, not in Kyev.
QFT.
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fred79
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posted May 04, 2022 09:25 PM |
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Ben80 said:
NimoStar said:
During CCCP war in Afghanistan, USA had to hide it was sending massive amount of weapons to islamists, and yet they won even with these loopholes. Now they don't even hide it, and it's not a single nation but tens of them doing it; and however they can't seem to turn the tide just yet.
The Soviet army did not lose in Afghanistan. On the contrary, she controlled the entire country, unlike the Americans in the 2000s,
who hid in their bases and were not afraid to lean out of there.
The war did not end for the reason that the flow of Mujahideen and weapons came from Pakistan, and the USSR did not want to strike at the territory of this country.
In the late 80s, the USSR left Afghanistan because it was leaving from everywhere, including Europe, which today's Europeans do not appreciate at all. For example, the USSR helped to unite Germany (but, for example, Great Britain was against the unification of Germany).
After the USSR left Afghanistan, the Najibula regime remained there,
which successfully fought the Mujahideen for several years,
but it stopped receiving ammunition and fuel from the USSR / Russia.
For comparison, the regime that remained in Afghanistan after the departure of the Americans did not last even 1 month.
russian army, pah. all it took was one American to take out an entire russian unit; including 2 attack helicopters, during that 80's conflict. if we were to send more badass Americans like that dude, we could have had you all making our delicious burgers and milkshakes for generations to come. 
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Minion
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posted May 04, 2022 09:37 PM |
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So good 
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Kipshasz
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posted May 04, 2022 10:20 PM |
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fred79 said:
Ben80 said:
NimoStar said:
During CCCP war in Afghanistan, USA had to hide it was sending massive amount of weapons to islamists, and yet they won even with these loopholes. Now they don't even hide it, and it's not a single nation but tens of them doing it; and however they can't seem to turn the tide just yet.
The Soviet army did not lose in Afghanistan. On the contrary, she controlled the entire country, unlike the Americans in the 2000s,
who hid in their bases and were not afraid to lean out of there.
The war did not end for the reason that the flow of Mujahideen and weapons came from Pakistan, and the USSR did not want to strike at the territory of this country.
In the late 80s, the USSR left Afghanistan because it was leaving from everywhere, including Europe, which today's Europeans do not appreciate at all. For example, the USSR helped to unite Germany (but, for example, Great Britain was against the unification of Germany).
After the USSR left Afghanistan, the Najibula regime remained there,
which successfully fought the Mujahideen for several years,
but it stopped receiving ammunition and fuel from the USSR / Russia.
For comparison, the regime that remained in Afghanistan after the departure of the Americans did not last even 1 month.
russian army, pah. all it took was one American to take out an entire russian unit; including 2 attack helicopters, during that 80's conflict. if we were to send more badass Americans like that dude, we could have had you all making our delicious burgers and milkshakes for generations to come.
Each and every soviet-afghan war veteran I know would kick comrade Benov's ass. untill xim stops moving and breathing.
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fred79
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posted May 04, 2022 11:03 PM |
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I mean, the dude was so badass in that conflict they made a documentary about it. russia can't compete with even one badass American.
but then, neither can ukrainians. i'll patiently wait for the day one American badass takes on the ukraine, and they make another documentary about that. i can see it now: "the ghost of kiev catches an rpg round to the face".
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Minion
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posted May 04, 2022 11:27 PM |
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I thought you made a Rambo reference, it is my bad, that I thought you would have said something funny.
It literally had nothing to do with the conflict. So. I feel bad for "responding" to you. It wont happen again 
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fred79
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posted May 04, 2022 11:36 PM |
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Minion said:
I thought you made a Rambo reference, it is my bad, that I thought you would have said something funny.
It literally had nothing to do with the conflict. So. I feel bad for "responding" to you. It wont happen again
that's not the post you made, that you deleted, sweetheart. i knew you would flip when i upset your programming. you just LOVE to stick to the script, don't you? obedient little npc's, the lot of you. say some more snow about Americans, come on. you act like you know anything at all; and i've been telling you and all the others: everything you hate us for, was controlled by our enemies. OUR. your people, AND mine.
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Minion
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posted May 04, 2022 11:39 PM |
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My post literally was a response to the post you deleted lol. Hypocrite.
Anyway, don't post here if you have more to spew on this topic, this is OSM. Take it to VW.
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fred79
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posted May 04, 2022 11:48 PM |
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Minion said:
My post literally was a response to the post you deleted lol. Hypocrite.
Anyway, don't post here if you have more to spew on this topic, this is OSM. Take it to VW.
do you even understand why you were ok with me joking using a movie reference along the lines of your programming(ukraine good, russia bad), and then immediately switched gears and insulted me once i added ukraine to the joke? do you actually KNOW why you reacted two different ways, to the SAME joke?
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purerogue
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posted May 04, 2022 11:53 PM |
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Minion
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posted May 04, 2022 11:55 PM |
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If there is a joke that a rapist gets hurt, it is funny. But a joke where the one being reaped is being raped and raped and raped... sorry. I don't find it funny.
But I want this thread to be fact based, and I shouldnt have gone into your jokes. My bad. It wont happen again. You can have this talk with others, if moderators allow it. But I am out.
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fred79
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posted May 05, 2022 12:07 AM |
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you've never been a soldier during a conflict, so you maybe wouldn't think that there are people on both sides who don't want unnecessary conflict, and think it isn't in either nation's interests(which, factually, with globalists, it never is). the problem is, that kind of thought never strikes people like you, because you react with emotion instead of thought. you react how you are literally trained to, like monkeys, through the media you thoughtlessly consume.
also, you ruined a good joke, and a good break from the monotony of pointing fingers mindlessly. good job.
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Ben80
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posted May 05, 2022 06:30 AM |
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@Kipshacz,
better take care of your stupid ass, fascist unfinished. Any Afghan veteran I know would spit in your face.
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fred79
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posted May 05, 2022 07:40 AM |
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ben, why do you ignore me? i ask you questions, i crack jokes, and get no response. you keep arguing with people on the other side of the fence; why don't you consider levelling with someone who hasn't aligned himself with enemies of the people? or are you just a troll account, meant to stir up the willfully domesticated? because, i mean, if you are, that's ok with me. lol.
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Ben80
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posted May 05, 2022 08:06 AM |
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fred79 said:
ben, why do you ignore me? i ask you questions, i crack jokes, and get no response. you keep arguing with people on the other side of the fence; why don't you consider levelling with someone who hasn't aligned himself with enemies of the people? or are you just a troll account, meant to stir up the willfully domesticated? because, i mean, if you are, that's ok with me. lol.
I'm not against communication and I liked your joke about Rambo. I said a lot of bad things about the USA (and I understand that you are an American), and you continue to treat me normally - apparently, you are a kind person.
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Ben80
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posted May 05, 2022 08:08 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
Of coursem the West (the US) equipped the Taliban with weapons against the USSR which spectacularly backfired on them. Which was as fair and equitable as the US getting bloodied in Vietnam.
Which is what will happen with Russia in the Ukraine as well.
Your weapons have done no good for Afghanistan, and do no good for Ukraine. Understand it at last.
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