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posted October 05, 2013 09:02 PM |
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Leak. I've seen leaker post the same list.
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posted October 05, 2013 10:21 PM |
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posted October 05, 2013 10:56 PM |
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Awesome. The second one looked realy out there. But the others looked good.
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posted October 06, 2013 12:19 AM |
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Seems like the creators really focused on dual types. As such starters have really interesting type mixes. I'll pick Froakie not only because I like it's final form the most, but also Water/Dark dual type looks interesting. The only drawback so far is that I see a lot of Dark types, so it'll make this type too common imo...
BTW when I've seen Goomy I was like WTF? How the f is this even a dragon? But his final form Goodra looks really nice. I wonder if he'll be a Dragon/Poison type...
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posted October 06, 2013 12:41 AM |
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it is not. Goodra, the third evolution is single-dragon.
which imo is a waste because it easily could have been dualed with poison, fairy or water.
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posted October 06, 2013 10:12 AM |
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@Lexxan
There's always next gen
BTW, some of you maybe new, but IGN posted an X/Y review on 4th giving the game 9/10 (I really hoped it would get 10/10, not that the reviews matter, but it's a sign that the game is not perfect, and people at IGN are Pokemon maniacs so it has a meaning). Aside from that, the video review is a letdown as they didn't show any new material (it's a gameplay trailers montage). Nintendos directive not to show any new footage/Pokemon?
I wonder about the A.I. As a single player it matters to me, and the reviewer said that once again the A.I. is plain stupid (or is this deliberately so, because Pokemon is a kiddy game at it's core). I really hope there are difficulty levels to choose from, because even if the A.I. is weak, more higher level Pokemon (especially for Gym Leaders or Elite Four) always make for more interesting battles...
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posted October 06, 2013 12:28 PM |
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blob2 said: I wonder about the A.I.
So do I. Did you play B&W? Because I realy struggled with White. Not 2 never played that. I struggled because I feel levels realy matter nowadays, and I was rather underleveled with a roughly lvl 44 team challenging a 46-50 elite 4, I barely, and I mean barely defeated N with the same team which leveled a little in the elite 4 fight and got trounced by Ghetsis. I'm not sure how much that has to do with AI and with balance, but it was the first time I actually got defeated.
On a different note, has anyone ever used a Scolipede? Cause I'm rather thinking that one of those could fill the 6th slot in my planned team. But I've never leveled the Venipede I caught in White past 16 because it didn't realy fit my team then and I replaced it with a Joltik pretty soon.
So I wanna hear your thoughts on Scolipede.
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posted October 06, 2013 02:50 PM |
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i am probs gonna use scollipede when i get black 2 and i heard it's *not bad*
anyway: Dragelge [skrelp evo] update: it's POISON/DRAGON hallelujah. Take THAT, Fairies
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posted October 06, 2013 05:23 PM |
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Lexxan said: i am probs gonna use scollipede when i get black 2 and i heard it's *not bad*
anyway: Dragelge [skrelp evo] update: it's POISON/DRAGON hallelujah. Take THAT, Fairies
As far as Dragelge goes, I'm hearing conflicting things. Some report it becoming Poison/Dragon as you say. Others report it remaining Poison/Water. I've yet to see leaked footage or screens confirming either.
I've heard similar things about Scolipede and my experience with Scolipede is mainly fighting against it. And it concludes to, "It ain't all that easy to take down". But perhaps my "dilemma" requires some more explaination. I tend to take pokemon who are good offensively, with reasonable survivability, who have little need of TM moves and reach their final form at 40 or earlier unless their a pseudolegendary. And I base myself off of this pokedex.
I'm planning my team as being this, including the likelyhood of the mons being on there:
1 Chesnaught [Grass/Fighting] Certain
2 Blastoise [Water] Certain
3 Talonflame [Fire / Flying] Very Likely
4 Tyrantrum [Rock/Dragon] Very Likely
5 Krookodile [Ground/Dark] Probable
6 Scolipede [Bug/Poison] OR Magnezone [Electric/Steel] In Doubt
Now I'm taking Chespin as my starter because I very much dislike the other two. And Blastoise for nostaligic reasons and because Chesnaught and Venusaur having obvious type-overlap.
I'm taking Talonflame as the obligatory Fly-ing mon, because the type-combination looks to be usefull and starting area birds are generally fairly reasonable/good mons.
I'm taking Tyrantrum because it looks awesome and because I expect Rock/Dragon to be a very effective type-combo.
I'm likely picking Krookodile because I've found Ground to be a very effective offensive type, I've had good experiences with one in White and it's Dark type would cover the glaring weakness in the rest my team against Psychic and Ghost mons.
Which takes me to my 6th mon. Taking the other 5 into consideration I'm rather leaving myself open to Fairy mons and perhaps some other type I'm missing for some reason. And as we know by now, Fairy mons are weak to both Steel and Poison. And as such I want a fairly reasonable mon with either poison or steel in it's typing and it being a dual type of which the second type doesn't overlap with the rest of my team. I've had good experiences with Magnezone in the past. And Scolipede looks good from what I know of him and is able to hold himself as an effective poison mon for a fairly long time, with it lacking a good attack from around 35+ (Which should be resolvable with a TM(Poison Jab)).
So, I'd like to hear what you guys thing or if you can find a flaw in either my team or my reasoning. Thanks in advance for your insights.
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posted October 06, 2013 06:00 PM |
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War-overlord said:
blob2 said: I wonder about the A.I.
Did you play B&W? Because I realy struggled with White. Not 2 never played that. I struggled because I feel levels realy matter nowadays, and I was rather underleveled
I played Black 2. You are right, levels did matter cause there were big jumps in them between towns, meaning that if you didn't train in-between, you could get seriously under-leveled. On the other hand, aside from not having a water type which was a bit troublesome, I felt that Black 2 was too easy. And Elite Four was a laugh. Though I didn't try the New Game+/Hard difficulty level where they did receive an additional Pokemon, plus a bit more type variety. But the basic EF was waaay too easy, a big letdown if you ask me. And, besides her troublesome Hydreigon, the Poke Master was also very easy. I really hope EF in X/Y will be better...
Quote: On a different note, has anyone ever used a Scolipede? Cause I'm rather thinking that one of those could fill the 6th slot in my planned team. But I've never leveled the Venipede I caught in White past 16 because it didn't realy fit my team then and I replaced it with a Joltik pretty soon.
So I wanna hear your thoughts on Scolipede.
I did, and I liked it. It's main stat is Speed, and if I remember correctly, it's one of the fastest Pokemon in the series. It also can learn some nice moves (PSN status inducing of course), especially Rock and Ground types (even Earthquake!). It's biggest weakness is it's HP. I've always felt it was underpowered in this matter, at level 50 it had as much as 50 HP less then my other Pokemon (not to mention Emboar which had around 200). I partially countered it with Leftovers (heals a couple of HP each turn). Aside from that, I think it's one of the coolest Bug-types design-wise Looks like a Dragon...
Try him/her. It's a type of Pokemon that won't play the biggest part in your team, but can be really useful, especially to weaken enemies with Poison. And, like in my case, you can teach him Steel-type Iron Defense (though I'm not certain you can in Pokemon White, I played Black 2, but he can certainly learn some other Def boosting moves) to make him withstand more attacks, while PSN effect sucks on enemies HP...
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posted October 07, 2013 11:17 PM |
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I BEAT WHITE WOO HOO, YAY ME.
i really, really, REALLY hated Ghet$#^!'s $#^!dreckgunk, so i was forced to use zekrom in lieu of scrafty :eyeroll:
final team was Stoutland/Excadrill/Chandelure/Sygiliph/Carracosta/Zekrom (:eyes
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posted October 08, 2013 07:52 PM |
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For Pokemon fans in the US and Canada, or maybe people who live outside that use a north american friend's address:
Pokemon X + Y Giveaway
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posted October 09, 2013 06:23 PM |
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If all goes well I'm receiving my Y copy tomorrow. Can't wait. The starters final evolutions are 99% sure (there are even movies on youtube) so I'll probably go with Froakie (I like it's final the most, and his type is interesting). Final forms could've been better, but I guess they are not that bad (gen V had the worst line-up imo, and it seems many players share my point of view)...
PS: Skrelps evolved form turned out quite interesting in both design and type, so I'm happy that he's a Y exclusive...
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posted October 09, 2013 06:41 PM |
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I dunno. Sharpedo and Crawdaunt are, certainly graphically, cooler Water/Dark 's as far as I'm concerned.
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posted October 09, 2013 08:36 PM |
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War-overlord said: I dunno. Sharpedo and Crawdaunt are, certainly graphically, cooler Water/Dark 's as far as I'm concerned.
Sharpedo yes (one of the best fish Pokemon designs imo), I'm not a fan of Crawdaunt though. And we don't know if those will be accessible in-game. Besides, I know you won't pick Greninja over Blastoise War-overlord
On a sidenote, having seen the supposed "Z" Pokemon (leak), I wonder how the traditional three roaming legendaries will look like...
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posted October 09, 2013 08:42 PM |
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blob2 said: And we don't know if those will be accessible in-game. Besides, I know you won't pick Greninja over Blastoise War-overlord
On a sidenote, having seen the supposed "Z" Pokemon (leak), I wonder how the traditional three roaming legendaries will look like...
If that pokedex I linked to a few posts earlier is to be believed, both are available pre-elite4.
And for the roamings, I've been hearing/reading things about the 3 kanto-birds. But I've yet to see anything to coroborate that.
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posted October 09, 2013 10:31 PM |
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War-overlord said: And for the roamings, I've been hearing/reading things about the 3 kanto-birds. But I've yet to see anything to coroborate that.
Yeah I've read about this somewhere. It would be a shame really, I'm always looking forward to see the new legendaries, but they are bound to run out of ideas for them eventually (how many more "aspects" of world like time/life/light/darkness etc. can you think of). Also there where complaints that GameFreak made too many legendaries already, so I guess they delivered (no new roamers). Personally, I can get enough of them
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posted October 10, 2013 08:45 AM |
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there won't be any roaming legendaries, as far as i know. no new ones anyway.
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there are, shockingly, only 69 new pokémon. However, this game offers so much variety with 450+ pokémon being available for capture and BEAUTIFUL graphics i'm sure it'll be amazing.
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posted October 10, 2013 10:37 AM |
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Lexxan said: there are, shockingly, only 69 new pokémon. However, this game offers so much variety with 450+ pokémon being available for capture and BEAUTIFUL graphics i'm sure it'll be amazing.
Same here. They've done quite enough new things to excuse them for making "only" 69 new ones.
On the other hand, I'm kinda disappointed that there is no new Pseudo-Legendary line. Sure we can catch 4 line from previous games, but still I'd have like some new ones. Unless, Gods forbid, the Goomy line is a pseudo. That would be very dissapointing.
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posted October 10, 2013 11:09 AM |
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Lexxan said: there are, shockingly, only 69 new pokémon. However, this game offers so much variety with 450+ pokémon being available for capture and BEAUTIFUL graphics i'm sure it'll be amazing.
I wonder about that. It's one of this circling rumors than can prove to be true all false...
For instance, are they counting Mega Evolutions as new Pokemon?
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