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Winthrop
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posted October 29, 2008 05:50 PM |
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Great thread. I learned a lot from it.
The knowledge I have, though, is limited to playing only Single Player (160%), because my original game got scratched after 3 days of using (thank God it was only from some gaming magazine and thus was cheap.) it (and it's not really my fault...).
I'm interested in two things:
1: The "many heroes" tactic is good, but I have doubts. How do you manage to buy 7 heroes and still manage to make your 1st building?
2: Would you consider upgrading some of your under-par dwellings (gargoyles, dwarves) if you had enough dwellings surrounding your castle, and it's poor settings so going for lvl 7 dwelling week 1 is a longshot at best?
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Hell_Wizard
Famous Hero
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posted December 11, 2008 08:47 PM |
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You can controll it, but from the other week, the one before the week you buy creatures from the portal. Of course, the first week of the portal existance you CAN'T controll it. 
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted December 12, 2008 06:52 AM |
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You can controll it, but from the other week, the one before the week you buy creatures from the portal. Of course, the first week of the portal existance you CAN'T controll it.
Not true.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted December 14, 2008 04:56 PM |
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Edited by angelito at 16:58, 14 Dec 2008.
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Cleaning done. This is a "tactic" thread. Not meant to be a "questions & answers" summary about basics.
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted December 17, 2008 05:00 PM |
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Quote:
UTOPE TACTIC
this is a situation not very common in games but when u have the option to use it, IT ROCKS.Ivor is not wearing all of his 2nd week army (alltho he had an external elf dwelling) He only use what he thinks he needs to master the dragons may their be 5 blacks or only 1. that dont matter to ivor  .
edit:Ivor has 11/2/5/11 stats but as you'll see he won't use all 110 spell point.This fight can be done with 80 sp easy.Archie "forgot" to mention that ivor was exp earth/air/archery and at least basic wisdom.This is said not a very common situation for week 2, but nevertheless the posibilities are endless.(defeated 70 nagas with only 40 GE with these exact skills&stats)
+QP given!
Unfortunately, this great tactic doesn't work for full tope. I tested several times and most often dragons attacked my GE.
Also, expert earth and basic wisdom are not necessary. Advanced earth will do the same force field and you can get this spell from book or from spell scroll...Perhaps expert Air is not mandatory too...
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sub_zero
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 18, 2008 12:48 AM |
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Unfortunately, this great tactic doesn't work for full tope. I tested several times and most often dragons attacked my GE.
Also, expert earth and basic wisdom are not necessary. Advanced earth will do the same force field and you can get this spell from book or from spell scroll...Perhaps expert Air is not mandatory too...
it is possible to take full tope, just play around with different amount of dwarvs and centaurs as fodder. you only need advanced earth, but expert air is needed or else the reds or greens will kill your elves round 1
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RivalCommander
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 21, 2009 04:26 AM |
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Is it possible to defeat 1000 chaos hydras split in 7 stacks with only 126 mighty gorgons, 35 cyclops king, 94 great basilisks, 21 ogre magi, 239 grand elves, 20 vyvern monarch and 53 chaos hydras?
I tried that on map Unleashing the Bloodthirsty and losed with only 36 chaos hydras left. However, if i had an ammo cart, i`d win...
Mass slow, mass sorrow, blind, teleport and frost ring.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted January 21, 2009 10:29 AM |
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Ged rid of your ogremagi, basilisks and wyvern monarchs and take 3 single dragonflies instead. Use them for distraction (mass sorrow helps) and for first retail later.
Only shoot with full arrow.
Use wait-hit-back tactic with your own chaos hydras.
Use mighty gorgons when dragflies took first retail (later in fight).
Don't shoot a stack down to zero, but to half size instead. About 70 chaos hydras in 1 stack can be killed by your own chaos and your mighties.
That way you can reduce all 7 stacks with your shooters and then use your melee force.
Use obstacles on the battlefield to your advantage. Means, if a stack of chaos is placed on a spot other stacks would have to walk around to get further coz of obstacles, blind it at that point. Gives time.
Mass slow, mass sorrow, blind...those are the first 3 spells to cast. After that, blind another stack every round. (Dragonflies for distraction....)
That way you should be able to kill those 1000 Chaos with only losing 3 single dragon flies at most.
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PrinceJasca
Hired Hero
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posted January 24, 2009 06:24 PM |
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I need some help.
I've started played Unleashing the Bloodthirsty SOD for a few days (I've ever played it once last year  so I play worse).
Month 11 week 1 day 1, El Trueno has arrived Confluxes, with about 400 titans, 1100 chaos hydras, 1900 mighty gorgons, 3000 grand elves, and a few (thousand) of archmagi, dragonfly,... I meet trouble with Mridureciak, who is holding four magic orbs. He has 1975 phoenixes, 5730 ice, 6500 storm (divided into 2 stacks), 2532 magic elementals, 3980 magma, 4670 energy.
What can I do now?
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Casihasi
Known Hero
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posted January 24, 2009 06:50 PM |
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You would have to give a bit more info, like hero stats or spells..
but i donīt think this belongs into this thread anyway.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted January 24, 2009 07:58 PM |
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You need a big stack of level 1 guys (goblins for example), which u can resurrect later and then sacrifice to bring back your whole stack of Chaos or Titans or Behemots at once.
You should have at least 1000 spellpoints and resurrection...no problem at all.
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morgan_le_fey
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2009 07:55 AM |
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my favorite tactic was giving people tactics that really dont work or i knew how to beat and then stompin em.
morgan le fey
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morgan_le_fey
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2009 08:02 AM |
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Ged rid of your ogremagi, basilisks and wyvern monarchs and take 3 single dragonflies instead. Use them for distraction (mass sorrow helps) and for first retail later.
Only shoot with full arrow.
Use wait-hit-back tactic with your own chaos hydras.
Use mighty gorgons when dragflies took first retail (later in fight).
Don't shoot a stack down to zero, but to half size instead. About 70 chaos hydras in 1 stack can be killed by your own chaos and your mighties.
That way you can reduce all 7 stacks with your shooters and then use your melee force.
Use obstacles on the battlefield to your advantage. Means, if a stack of chaos is placed on a spot other stacks would have to walk around to get further coz of obstacles, blind it at that point. Gives time.
Mass slow, mass sorrow, blind...those are the first 3 spells to cast. After that, blind another stack every round. (Dragonflies for distraction....)
That way you should be able to kill those 1000 Chaos with only losing 3 single dragon flies at most.
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if you can do this i really respect you man.
morgan le fey.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted February 15, 2009 07:57 PM |
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Edited by angelito at 16:59, 16 Feb 2009.
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if you can do this i really respect you man.
morgan le fey.
I remember you as an excellent fortress player morgan, so I'm pretty sure you could do the same. Here are the pics:
I've loaded a save of that map when I took first town in swamp (month 1 week 4 day 7), just to see how my hero looked alike to play with nearly same stats and artefacts. My stats (including some little arties) were 23 13 13 15. I've added just a few coz the fight vs those chaos on that map happens around 2-3 weeks later. Spirit of Oppression and Ring of speed where present on that map for your main.
So here is the main right before the fight:
Here is the start of the fight after the tactics phase:
Here the situation after 5 rounds:
Here the situation after 10 rounds:
Here is the final round (round 17):
And here is the winning report:
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted February 15, 2009 10:10 PM |
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Angelito, is it possible to use a combination of Berserker, (Mass) Slow and Sorrow instead of Blind (if you don't have it)?
Is it possible to defeat them with only an Ammocart, the Shooters and Force Field?
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
gets back
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posted February 16, 2009 05:21 AM |
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I dunno, it's been a long time since I last played, but on Unleashing the Bloodthirsty I did defeat legions of azure dragons with ammo cart, grand elves, titans, force field and a single rust dragon (so that I go first with speed artifacts). I don't remember how many elves/titans I had (not very much tho: I went through the map quite fast).
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angelito
Honorable
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proud father of a princess
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posted February 16, 2009 09:46 AM |
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Edited by angelito at 09:47, 16 Feb 2009.
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The problem is, at that point of the game, when you face those 1008 Chaos Hydras, you are quite at the beginning of that map (start / middle month 2). You do not have spells like berzerk (only stronghold and fortress towns to conquer) and force field isn't availabe either. Of course this fight would be a piece of cake with forcefield, ammocart and grandelves.
But to be honest, when I loaded my save, I have 550 grand elves and around 75 cyclop kings, and not those lower numbers rivalcommander (who brought up that problem) showed us. But as you can see, even with lower amount of troops, this fight isn't too hard.
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
gets back
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posted February 17, 2009 07:27 AM |
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An extra trick (useful on bloodthirsty).
I might not remember exactly how it work tho. The idea is to get your stack poisoned by wyverns (own stack will do) THEN do the resurrections (lower hp). I think something alone those lines saved my ass on that map several times.
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tyraxor
Adventuring Hero
Ruler of the burning Desert
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posted April 12, 2009 09:22 PM |
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1008 Chaos, and they didn't harm you at all?
Did you dodged them all the time or are they so worthless
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 12, 2009 11:31 PM |
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1008 Chaos, and they didn't harm you at all?
Did you dodged them all the time or are they so worthless
Nearly every unit is harmless in the hand of a computer player..
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