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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted April 03, 2013 12:16 PM

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Oh, and about 0,0 - it's buggy, trust me.

Never saw any bugs.
Where to look on them?
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Hobbit
Hobbit


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posted April 03, 2013 01:38 PM

All buildings are technically in the same place, so they can easily overlay each other depending on which building you buy first. While it's not such a problem in SoD/WoG (although there may appear some problems with choosing the building), VCMI has more problems with that and it can even crash because of that.

Happened to me at least 4 times and I'm sure it's 0,0 problem while it never happened with Cove and appeared only once with Forge.
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IvanSav


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posted April 03, 2013 02:54 PM

Hi. For those who don't know me - I'm one of vcmi developers.
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We aren't going to release any version of Grove for VCMI yet due to no scripts language. It just won't work 100% properly without them.


I'm OK with that but why would you need scripts here? From what I see most or even all creature abilities and hero specials used in Groove are available in vcmi too.

The only problem I see are special buildings which can't be implemented right now. But this is more like a missing feature and unrelated to lack of scripts.
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VCMI has more problems with that and it can even crash because of that.


Any steps to reproduce this crash? VCMI should not crash no matter how buildings images were made. Buildings placed at 0,0 should work just as well as buildings placed correctly. Othervice this is a bug.

This may be some not handled by vcmi case or hastily made mod (as opposed to properly made mod). I doubt that this is caused by positioning them at 0,0
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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted April 03, 2013 03:09 PM

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Happened to me at least 4 times and I'm sure it's 0,0 problem while it never happened with Cove and appeared only once with Forge.


I got crashes on VCMI only 1 time - when border file was saved as 24bit and area file - as 8 bit.
And it's not fault of VCMI - it's fault of people, who made these areas/borders for ERA.
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posted April 03, 2013 03:46 PM

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From what I see most or even all creature abilities and hero specials used in Groove are available in vcmi too.

Yet some of them are quite unique, and we planned to change some of these not unique too to make them more interesting.

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Any steps to reproduce this crash?

It's very random. Sometimes town screen works fine, sometimes it doesn't. I guess it depends on which building will load first.

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And it's not fault of VCMI - it's fault of people, who made these areas/borders for ERA.

Both actually, but yes, it's more fault of people who are too lazy to input some real coordinates instead of (0,0). And it has nothing to do with ERA...

VCMI is not a god.

Besides - I asked you something quite recently, but you didn't answer: how many times do you really PLAY VCMI, not only test it? For me it's almost unplayable at the moment, so why praise it and say every other platform is worse?
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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 03:55 PM

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And it's not fault of VCMI - it's fault of people, who made these areas/borders for ERA.


Macron, you are annoying, sorry to say. What people, what borders? Both Era and VCMI teams are composed of voluntaries, guys who give from their free time for others, without payback. What you did, sorry? Nothing.

What's this stubborn attitude saying VCMI buried Era, VCMI this, VCMI that? We all wait eagerly for VCMI to be playable one day, but this will not invalidate all the work valuable people did, both on wog and era. Which will survive to VCMI and become complementary.
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Macron1
Macron1


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posted April 03, 2013 03:59 PM
Edited by Macron1 at 15:59, 03 Apr 2013.

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What you did, sorry? Nothing.


I am on this forum only week. I learned VCMI modding about month ago.
You can trust me, I did more than enough.
I can share some towns, but they all need some graphic corrections and balancing yet.

And what you did for VCMI?
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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 04:05 PM

Why should I? Do you see me trolling forums saying Era is god, Vcmi is snow, coca cola is tasty? I am working on my side and don't make assumptions which upset others.
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Macron1
Macron1


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posted April 03, 2013 04:20 PM

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Why should I? Do you see me trolling forums saying Era is god, Vcmi is snow, coca cola is tasty? I am working on my side and don't make assumptions which upset others.


I see you trolling and speading propaghanda right now.

PS If you to be heared, it's seems, that YOU wrote Heroes 3 personally, and ERM is a part of original game. You are just not legally using classic EXE variying bytes.
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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 04:32 PM

I live in the European Union: here is the law:

The person having a right to use a copy of a computer program shall be entitled, without the authorization of the rightholder, to observe, study or test the functioning of the program in order to determine the ideas and principles which underlie any element of the program if he does so while performing any of the acts of loading, displaying, running, transmitting or storing the program which he is entitled to do..
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Hobbit
Hobbit


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posted April 03, 2013 04:46 PM

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I see you trolling and speading propaghanda right now.

Oh, the irony...
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IvanSav
IvanSav


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posted April 03, 2013 05:13 PM

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Yet some of them are quite unique, and we planned to change some of these not unique too to make them more interesting.

Your choice
As you can see from art pack mods you're not limited with H3 abilities (artifacts use the same system as creatures). Good example that scripting is not essential to get new abilities.

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It's very random. Sometimes town screen works fine, sometimes it doesn't. I guess it depends on which building will load first.

It's definitely not load order - it won't change unless you've made significant changes in mod.

I don't have any crashes with Forge but I did found something - vcmi may crash if selection area image is smaller than .def file. If this is the source of crash then it should be fixed soon.

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Macron1
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posted April 03, 2013 05:21 PM

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I live in the European Union: here is the law:

The person having a right to use a copy of a computer program shall be entitled, without the authorization of the rightholder, to observe, study or test the functioning of the program in order to determine the ideas and principles which underlie any element of the program if he does so while performing any of the acts of loading, displaying, running, transmitting or storing the program which he is entitled to do..


To which of "observe, study and test" ERM script is related?
This is not giving you right to distribute scripts. And I see no "gaming" in "observe, study and test"?
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On the Other Side!
posted April 03, 2013 05:24 PM

This is getting absurd lol.

I thought this topic covers VCMI discussion (and information), not discussing if ERM is legal or not.

Cmon...
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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 05:53 PM

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And I see no "gaming" in "observe, study and test"?


If the program in question is a game, do you need a design to make the conjuncture?
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posted April 03, 2013 06:56 PM

Guys, please keep it calm. There's no need to prove something is legal or allowed. Let's get back to the game
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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted April 05, 2013 09:57 AM

I saw this screenshot on DF2:
http://cs402924.vk.me/v402924736/a22d/rs2QAuWDi2k.jpg

This is "Aristocratic Court Town".
Did someone know about it and where to download?
Search by Rambler and Google didn't lead me to it.
Units are pretty ugly, but screen is good.
I want town to convert to VCMI.
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Trith
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Adventuring Hero
Not a Hero... Just a... Nobody
posted April 05, 2013 10:57 PM

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"Aristocratic Court Town"


This town actualy was made by me.

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Did someone know about it and where to download?


I think likns in this thread are still working.

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I want town to convert to VCMI.


Someone is already working on it. If you want, I can ask him if he wants any help in converting.


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Units are pretty ugly


I assume you have better ones.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted April 06, 2013 01:31 AM
Edited by Macron1 at 12:21, 06 Apr 2013.

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"Aristocratic Court Town"


Someone is already working on it. If you want, I can ask him if he wants any help in converting.


Well, ask him. I think, the only difficult part is to manually enter coordinates for dwellings on townscreen.
If he didn't do this, I can help him, of cause.

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Units are pretty ugly


I assume you have better ones.


I found in some monsters pack at least mounted king and few princesses/princes. So if they will be added with a couple of human knights, there will be cool fraction.

UPD 2 woman froilains are good, and caster in cylinder is also cool. They will stay in my version of town

By the way, I found, that you are doing Asylum:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=33252&pagenumber=1

How's the work going?
Is it will be VCMIed? Need help VCMIing?
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Hobbit
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Supreme Hero
posted April 06, 2013 01:47 PM

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I found in some monsters pack at least mounted king and few princesses/princes. So if they will be added with a couple of human knights, there will be cool fraction.

Make all units by yourself or leave this town alone, please. Only then you can say that it will be cool.
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