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serptico
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 21, 2010 02:43 PM |
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I hope the french dudes at blachole or ubi whatever dont decide on the 5th faction based on alignment cause it will restrict options. I always believed that they never should of create factions based on alignment, I could just as play a heaven faction pretending im a bady and corrupt ruler !!
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maken
Known Hero
Hail Hydra!
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posted December 21, 2010 02:52 PM |
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Edited by maken at 14:53, 21 Dec 2010.
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Oh, now I get your point. You're saying mythology-wise (as in role in the fantasy world) because appearance-wise there is not much difference between them (I mean, the 'true' depictions of echidna and naga, at least in a fast pictures and physical description search). 
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Meskyn
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 21, 2010 05:07 PM |
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Edited by Meskyn at 17:19, 21 Dec 2010.
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South East Asian jungle is perfect for Nag, Nagini and  Nagas
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evinin
Supreme Hero
Servant of Asha
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posted December 21, 2010 06:20 PM |
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I'm starting to think that Nagas won't be the fifth faction. What evidence do we actually got? Some pics from years ago in which Nagas are Asian stilled and so don't fit in Heroes. What else? We have the different kinds of lands/grounds and some building stile that look Aztecan. Still we thought that jungle has to do something with lizards (Nagas...) and we ended up with orcs.
Haven and Stronghold (I don't know if it's still called like that) are not strong in casting. Necropolis is magic-based and Inferno is rather might and magic. So I think that the new faction should be magic-based.
We have another tip - the water dragon in the new video. So the new faction should have some relation with water but that doesn't scream "NAGA" to me.
And we have the last child (a woman, I think?). What would she do in a Naga faction and when in the history of Ashan are things like Nagas mentioned?
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 21, 2010 06:31 PM |
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Here's what, in my eyes, makes a naga faction the most likely:
-Jungle terrain for last town
-Nagas exist in established lore
-Last town confirmed for new race
Sure, it could be something completely new, but Nagas are the most likely candidate simply because they are already known to exist in the world of Ashan, and jungle terrain would be the most logical tileset for a water-based race.
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mytheroes
Famous Hero
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posted December 21, 2010 06:32 PM |
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Stronghold tile set is confirmed to be plains not jungle. So the last faction can have jungle, snow, or underground as its tile set.
And Naga is actually mentioned quite a lot in Ashan lore, just check around.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 21, 2010 06:39 PM |
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Snow isn't a faction tileset according to insiders, it was something the devs added after the fact because they were able to; it wasn't planned as being in from the beginning.
Underground could have one, but it seems far more likely that a surface tileset would have a town, and not Underground, if it came to a choice between the two of them.
So Jungle is really the only realistic option for the fifth town.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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Raelag84
Famous Hero
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posted December 21, 2010 06:43 PM |
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Edited by Raelag84 at 18:48, 21 Dec 2010.
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I'm starting to think that Nagas won't be the fifth faction. What evidence do we actually got? Some pics from years ago in which Nagas are Asian stilled and so don't fit in Heroes. What else? We have the different kinds of lands/grounds and some building stile that look Aztecan. Still we thought that jungle has to do something with lizards (Nagas...) and we ended up with orcs.
Haven and Stronghold (I don't know if it's still called like that) are not strong in casting. Necropolis is magic-based and Inferno is rather might and magic. So I think that the new faction should be magic-based.
We have another tip - the water dragon in the new video. So the new faction should have some relation with water but that doesn't scream "NAGA" to me.
And we have the last child (a woman, I think?). What would she do in a Naga faction and when in the history of Ashan are things like Nagas mentioned?
I would think of the Naga faction as a magic faction as they are symbols of arcane knowledge. Also it should be noted that the Naga are an "elder" race in Ashen lore meaning they were created by an elemental dragon.
But at anyrate you have a point. The evidence the Naga are going to be in the game is acctully scant. In fact my vote orginaly was the 5th faction would be the faceless.
The only reason why I think the Naga faction might the 5th now is that Elven argued strongly that the Naga culture should be modled after Japanese/Chinese culture. The only reason I think he would do that is because Ubisoft has almost complted a Japanese/Chinese Naga faction and can no longer go back no matter what we fans say.
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Meskyn
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 21, 2010 08:11 PM |
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HISSS indian movie
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Hakkology
Hired Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 12:20 PM |
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I'll go puke if its not academy.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 24, 2010 12:25 PM |
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Better get a barfbag, I'm not sweeping the floor again 
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted December 24, 2010 12:26 PM |
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Go puke. It's 100% certain that it won't be Academy.
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Mmh6James
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 12:31 PM |
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Adding snowy Academy in the sixth game would be the most epic thing ever done.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted December 24, 2010 04:50 PM |
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snow is the tileset for dwarves, desert is for academy btw
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Hakkology
Hired Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 05:19 PM |
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You have no proof that the nagas are going to be in warcraft3 style. And just because they are nagas that doeasn't mean that they listen more to warcraft fans than heroes fans. I don't know if there were nagas in H1 and H2, but they were in H3 and H4. Their appearance in H6 as a new faction is good, since their place was taken by rakshasas. Also they have a new role in ashan...
And they were powerful servants of the wizards in H3 and H4.
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Better get a barfbag, I'm not sweeping the floor again
Anyway, *pukinggg *weird sounds**
Sorry Elvin , its too late 
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted December 24, 2010 05:52 PM |
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how can TBS be similar to RTS???
how can HoMM be same as WoW (mmorpg)???
how can the fact that HoMM has races make it WoW, if you look at it that way then HoMM is similar to million another games???
how can HoMM be compared to WoW rather then it's direct competitor Disciples, Knig's Bounty???
how can not you see that HoMM is DIFFERENT!!!!!
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted December 24, 2010 06:08 PM |
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Quote:
how can TBS be similar to RTS???
how can HoMM be same as WoW (mmorpg)???
how can the fact that HoMM has races make it WoW, if you look at it that way then HoMM is similar to million another games???
how can HoMM be compared to WoW rather then it's direct competitor Disciples, Knig's Bounty???
how can not you see that HoMM is DIFFERENT!!!!!
Nicely said. 
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 07:05 PM |
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I guessed you missed that since they created Ashan, the Naga have been said to be one of the most important races there (they are just as important as the Angels).
I think you are generalizing waaaaaaay to much here. Personally, I do like the Naga in WoW as they are shown as one of the more powerful "villian" races that actually feel like a threat in that game but would I want Warcraft Naga in a Heroes game? No.
What made me love the idea of a Naga faction in HoMM was the beautiful, cool and really creative artworks for the supposed H5 Sanctuary town which would have featured Naga. I really liked the look of that town and the creatures and some of the creatures in "Sanctuary" even made it to the H5 files though they are very unfinished.
Finally, Asian mythologies often get ignored in favor of most commonly greek, norse and egyptian mythology so introducing an asian faction to HoMM would be a great opportunity to introduce many new and interesting creatures to the franchise that are not Centaurs, Trolls or Mummies.
Also I think that a faction led by Manticores and Mummies could work. You would just have to get a little bit creative with the Manticores and probably make them a bit humanoid.
I think I just got an idea for a new Dungeon faction...
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admira
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 07:24 PM |
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Here is my sum up based on my personal observasion. So nothing is official. You may also treat it as a joke.
What we know:
1. The 5th race will be new
2. In the past, they filled the dungeon with dark elves and call it new race (although fury is actually harpy put in bikini and high heel)
3. New arabic theme to wizard didn't considered new
What we don't know:
1. What is the level of "new"? Compare to heroes 5? Compare to all heroes in history? Or the "new" dungeon of heroes 5?
Candidates:
1. "New" Academy
Theory:
- Similar to "new" dungeon of heroes 5, this time it is filled with beastmen
- I know beastmen are not supposed to be existed in the time line, but the necro story twist comes into mind
- The 5th sibling maybe the egg head out of the 5 and probably in some kind of experiment of the beastmen to prepare the next eclipse and orc's rebelling behavior
- The line up may consist some anubis creature or amon ra half eagle humonoid, hell titan might return and fit the desert
Cons:
- There is no desert tileset
2. "New" Dungeon
Theory:
- The story mainly focus on battle between arch angel general vs his ancient enemy in which is the faceless
- If you guess the new line up consist of faceless instead of dark elves you read my mind about repeating the "NEW" hype in heroes 5
- The 5th sibling probably discovered the angel's true purpose and tuen into helping their enemy (the faceless) instead
- There is subterran layer in the game
Cons:
- Rampaging fans for getting "NEW" that is actually dungeon twice
3. Sanctuary (a.k.a Nagas)
Theory:
- Screenshot of boss Namtaru battle that showing big head statue with snakes as the hair
- Sanctuary as the faction town name came from various source
- Might actually fill the position of "Beautiful" faction left by the absence of elven race
- The 5th sibling probably related to guarding Mother Namtaru or in a quest aiding the Nagas in recovering it from the hand of necromancers
Cons:?
- The Nagas are barely mentioned in original timeline, in which the story will take place on
4. Swamp fortress (Heroes 3 style)
Theory:
- The "New" stuff probably only refer to races of ashan revealed so far, means: Heroes 5, Dark Messiah and Clash of Heroes, so something comes from Enroth or Erathia will be considered "New"
- The rumored Sanctuary probably is the incarnation of Heroes 3's fortress with Naga as the "main" race
- As for the sibling see my sanctuary's theory about the 5th sibling
Cons:
- Same as Sanctuary
5. Sylvan
Theory:
- The need of "Beautiful" race
- As for "NEW" on Heroes 5, they can now fill the tree huger with a mixing of dark and normal sylvan elves and call it new
- The faceless and the dark elves are strongly related but due to the timeline, they probably play the role as 1 combined elven faction.
- The 5th sibling probably, fall in love with some kind of dark elves and giving birth to one of returning legendary hero that is a vory elves and half human: gelu 
Cons:
- No tileset currently fit the combined Sylvan and Dark
- They are strongest candidate for expansion
- The combined Sylvan and Dark Elves sounds corny
There goes my wild guess, if the new is not one of them, don't blame me, ok. I told you it is a blind personal guess
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blighboy
Hired Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 07:42 PM |
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Ideas can be stolen/used from other games.
many people love warcraft more than their own pathetic lives, there are even clinics for getting passed your WOW addiction...
Really other games want that aswel and all those whining fans that scream for warcraft-like units are heared off.
Thats why everybody wants this stupid naga faction, while there are also creatures like lizardmen that make much more sense.
All fans only want naga faction because the WOW made them into a race-like thing. Well in HOMM a naga-based faction won't make sense at all, it would be the same as cyclops faction, a manticore faction and a mummy faction.
I don't really think people want Naga because of WoW any more than people want Aztec Lizardmen because of Warhammer. I don't play WoW, and have rarely seen it mentioned by others here, but the idea of a Naga faction appeals to me.
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