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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 17, 2010 10:38 AM |
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It's a moot point now, as Academy won't be showing up until at least the first expansion. Sorry, Academy fans, but we know that the last town is new.
At least you guys have the solace of knowing your favorite town's almost certain to be in HVI at some point, though.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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Acds
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 17, 2010 12:34 PM |
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What if they pull a big surprise on us and reveal that the 5th faction has water as it's tileset? Afterall people have been begging for a water-based faction since forever.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 17, 2010 12:39 PM |
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Lulz I can see the headlines already. Water faction stranded on no islands map, please send reinforcements
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Acds
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 17, 2010 12:46 PM |
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Quote: Lulz I can see the headlines already. Water faction stranded on no islands map, please send reinforcements
Yeah purely water would make it highly problematic, unless all the mulitplayer maps have a lot of water in them but I doubt it.
Could be both though, able to have a town in the water or out of it. Chances are though the faction will be in one of the last two tilesets.
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Mmh6James
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 12:55 PM |
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When is the fifth faction going to be revealed?
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 01:15 PM |
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Quote: Yeah purely water would make it highly problematic, unless all the mulitplayer maps have a lot of water in them but I doubt it.
Could be both though, able to have a town in the water or out of it. Chances are though the faction will be in one of the last two tilesets.
The only thing they could do is to allow the heroes of one faction to cross water without ships and the turn penalties. I remember Lords of Magic did this, but their towns were still on the land anyway. The gameplay does not allow anything else, having towns in the water would be way too unbalanced with the area of control thing going on.
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unicornblood
Hired Hero
Learning Human Soul
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posted December 17, 2010 02:37 PM |
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I think we can absolutely rule out the Dragon Knights (they are a secret oreder, why were they even in the poll?). The Faceless...I don't think so...and the conclusion is that a Naga-based faction would have the best chance. As far as I know, Naga are part of Hindu and Buddhist mythology and folklore. Also, if I were to tell which terrain would be the Nagas', I would go for the jungle, as it is watery and it is a place where you can find snakes. We should also take note that while Sveltana travels through the jungle (on the video) she comes across a more or less small pond from which emerges what I believe to be a water elemental. Given the fact that water elementals worship Shalassa, the Elemental Dragon of Water, the same Goddess the Nagas worship, their native terrain could be jungle. Judging by the screencaps from Sveltana's quest though, I would say that they have an equal chance of being in the underground (see Medusa's head behind Mother Namtaru). But, as no things are done without a reason, the Nagas could have just been NATIVE to the jungle and had to retreat to the underground when the orcs came from the Silver Cities.
I said from the ones listed, Naga would have the greatest chance. But I can't see how the Nagas would have a role in a story which involves humans, necromancers, demons, orcs and how Academy wouldn't play any part. For this reason, I am positive that the 5th and final faction will be Academy.
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted December 17, 2010 03:24 PM |
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Quote: I said from the ones listed, Naga would have the greatest chance. But I can't see how the Nagas would have a role in a story which involves humans, necromancers, demons, orcs and how Academy wouldn't play any part. For this reason, I am positive that the 5th and final faction will be Academy.
the 5th faction will be New to HoMM series, so it can not be Academy.. unfortunately..
It is confirmed..!
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unicornblood
Hired Hero
Learning Human Soul
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posted December 17, 2010 03:26 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: I said from the ones listed, Naga would have the greatest chance. But I can't see how the Nagas would have a role in a story which involves humans, necromancers, demons, orcs and how Academy wouldn't play any part. For this reason, I am positive that the 5th and final faction will be Academy.
the 5th faction will be New to HoMM series, so it can not be Academy.. unfortunately..
It is confirmed..!
It might have just as well been a bluff...
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 03:28 PM |
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If Naga become the 5th faction then I doubt very much they would be super dependant on water. However, it could be an interesting perk or skill for Naga heroes to be able to travel through water without a boat and their racial skill could be the old, suggested "Flood the battlefield and gain some bonuses"-racial.
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Over himself, over his own
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 05:55 PM |
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it's surprising that there is no academy, considering there are necromancers
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Mmh6James
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 07:32 PM |
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Quote: If Naga become the 5th faction then I doubt very much they would be super dependant on water. However, it could be an interesting perk or skill for Naga heroes to be able to travel through water without a boat and their racial skill could be the old, suggested "Flood the battlefield and gain some bonuses"-racial.
There's no point in nagas living in a dungeon.
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 08:44 PM |
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Quote: There's no point in nagas living in a dungeon.
As opposed to their meaningful and enriching lives on the surface?
By the way, wonder what name they are gonna use for the 5th town. 'Sylvan' was the only new title in H5, the rest was taken from old games but I guess they wouldn't risk re-using old names like 'Asylum' since this method already upsets fans of certain swamp towns. 'Sanctuary' is the rumored title? It might be too similar to 'Stronghold'.
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 11:50 PM |
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Palace maybe
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Over himself, over his own
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted December 18, 2010 12:16 AM |
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shooshima
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 18, 2010 02:18 AM |
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5th faction
You have to take into consideration that the faction can't be bug people or the dungeon, this faction has to have 2 things:
1. GOOD faction, allied with Haven
2. It has to be a completely new faction
also y do u guys think the 5th faction will be naga people?
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 18, 2010 02:21 AM |
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Water-based factions in a TBS are inherently problematic; they're super broken on water and godawful with out.
Take the Nautilus Pirates from Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri: Alien Crossfire-they started on the water while every other faction started on land, and that made them pretty damn OP.
Nagas on water would not be the way to go in my eyes, it'd be nearly impossible to balance.
As for names, if it's a jungle town, I want Fortress. Accept no substitutes.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted December 18, 2010 02:58 AM |
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*Jabanoss raises his hand*
(however I don't care if the developers needs to work their asses off, it would still be awesome)
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 18, 2010 03:27 AM |
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I want a manly jungle town with lizardmen and gorgons, none of this nancy-boy elf nonsense!
I would love a TON of neutral creatures, though; would really add variety to creeping, as well as armies, if their dwellings are common.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted December 18, 2010 03:31 AM |
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Edited by Jabanoss at 03:31, 18 Dec 2010.
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Just to clarify, I only raised my hand in support of Nightterrors Law aka all-previous-homm-creatures-that-not-make-it-turn-out-to-be-neutrals-for-the-moment law
After all I don't want be in the wrong mob when the riots starts :/
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