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Thread: Your predictions for 5th New Faction This thread is 19 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 · «PREV / NEXT»
Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
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Property of Nightterror™
posted December 04, 2010 08:37 PM
Edited by Jabanoss at 20:44, 04 Dec 2010.

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Oh God No!

You guys don't see anything wrong with this!? These "Japanese Naga" look Awful! AWFUL!! Besides China and Japan were never really that big into Naga. South East Asia is where Naga were really worshiped. Plus if they were South east Asian inspired you could have really cool south east Asian inspired cities.

Check these out.

http://www.angkorguide.net/mythology/naga_garuda.htm

http://www.google.com/images?num=10&hl=en&rlz=1T4WZPC_enUS398US398&q=angkor+wat&wrapid=tlif12861600629182&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=nhSpTI6JA4L-8AaPhvypDA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CEYQsAQwAw&biw=1579&bih=622

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borobudur

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/admira/Prambanan.jpg

As for the Naga being Aztec inspired, well honestly I just don't see that at all.


I agree with what you say, but it don't matter much as they can make their own stuff anyway. Nagas might not have been a Japanese creature but it can still have Japanese style, it's all in the hand of the developers

The same thing about a Aztec style, Nagas in Ashan can have Aztec-style even if that was not the case in our world
And the reason why I want Aztec-style is because if the Nagas is going to be a jungle/swamp faction in a similar fashion as the H3 fortress was, Then I know it can fit awesomely with Aztec-style



Edit: Hmm however Cambodian/Indonesian-style can be equally cool as a Aztec-style, even more so maybe. OMG you have a point This should be their Theme/style!

(if there even is a naga faction.....)
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DarkLord
DarkLord


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posted December 04, 2010 09:05 PM

Just hope Naga's are not Indian style... IMO gonna be Awful!!!! With all the rest i am fine)

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Zenofex
Zenofex


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posted December 04, 2010 09:08 PM

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Just hope Naga's are not Indian style...
So Naga should not be Naga style???

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blizz
blizz


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posted December 04, 2010 09:19 PM

ill kill myself if they ruin my favorite creature and make it look like those on ledroit artwork.

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DarkLord
DarkLord


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posted December 04, 2010 09:39 PM

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Quote:
Just hope Naga's are not Indian style...
So Naga should not be Naga style???


no i mean This...


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Jabanoss
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posted December 04, 2010 10:59 PM

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So Naga should not be Naga style???

Of course the Naga should be Naga style, but we are discussing what that Naga style is or should be. But I Hope you already understand that. I guess your point is that they shouldn't just rip the style for the Nagas from an already existing style/culture. Plz them me if I'm wrong
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SwampLord
SwampLord


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posted December 04, 2010 11:05 PM

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That's concept artwork by Olivier Ledroit. They are meant to serve as inspiration, not to be used at face value. Units or heroes may borrow part of the sword, clothing or anything really.


Good to know; as always, thanks for the info!
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Zenofex
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posted December 05, 2010 12:25 AM
Edited by Zenofex at 00:38, 05 Dec 2010.

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I guess your point is that they shouldn't just rip the style for the Nagas from an already existing style/culture
My point is that the Naga are much more hinduistic than anything else. Additionally, they can be found in various forms, including very similar to the western perception of what is commonly called dragon (usually a wingless one though) and even the Lernaean hydra.

India:


Cambodia:


Like many mythological creatures, the Naga aren't described in just one or two ways, so the artists can use many sources for inspiration. The geisha and the daimyo above however are bloody generic and better not be used for anything.

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xerox
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posted December 05, 2010 01:10 AM

because in greek mythology centaurs lived among mongolian-influenced orcs in the taiga and titans were gigantic constructs animated with magic

just because they originate from indian mythology, it does not mean that they need to stay true to that
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Meskyn
Meskyn


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posted December 05, 2010 02:18 AM

New faction=(new town+new heroes+new creatures+new ground)*new story? Otherwise....not a virgin ANYMORE!
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Raelag84
Raelag84


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posted December 05, 2010 02:54 AM
Edited by Raelag84 at 02:56, 05 Dec 2010.

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because in greek mythology centaurs lived among mongolian-influenced orcs in the taiga and titans were gigantic constructs animated with magic

just because they originate from indian mythology, it does not mean that they need to stay true to that


But it sure as heck makes sence that they do, because that South East Asian mythology rocks and so don't those old South East Asian buildings.

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Zenofex
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posted December 05, 2010 09:36 AM
Edited by Zenofex at 09:38, 05 Dec 2010.

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because in greek mythology centaurs lived among mongolian-influenced orcs in the taiga and titans were gigantic constructs animated with magic

just because they originate from indian mythology, it does not mean that they need to stay true to that
Well yeah, the Orcs from HoMM V are a perfect example for well-made faction which everybody likes. And Titan is the name of the construct, just like you can name, for example, a level 7 Forge creature Juggernaut and few people will protest.
Yes, normally it makes sense one creature to stay true to its native mythology. Some innovation is possible of course, but there is also one quite visible border of absurdity which should not be crossed.

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DarkLord
DarkLord


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posted December 16, 2010 02:06 AM

ok 4th faction confirmed? - Stronghold

who then can be the 5th one???

doesn't make much sence to me in terms of balance...

Haven - Good
Necropolis - Evil
Inferno - Evil
Stronghold - Orcs - Evil (they don't look neutral enough)
5th faction - ????

Logically should be Good faction...hmmmm...?

Naga-like faction - Neutral
Faceless dungeon - Evil
Dark elves - more Evil, then Neutral
???????? - Good

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Meskyn
Meskyn


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posted December 16, 2010 02:38 AM

I hope that no faction will be good or evil, or each faction will be evil or good!
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Paiazza
Paiazza


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posted December 16, 2010 02:47 AM

This

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SwampLord
SwampLord


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Lord of the Swamp
posted December 16, 2010 04:26 AM

If Stronghold is on the jungle tileset, it seems only logical the new town will be Faceless underground, as they're the last real option.

This leaves us with a rather bizarre spread of 1 good town and 4 that are either evil or opposed to it, though. Haven's gonna be pretty lonely...
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Foonlegacy
Foonlegacy


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posted December 16, 2010 04:53 AM

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This leaves us with a rather bizarre spread of 1 good town and 4 that are either evil or opposed to it, though. Haven's gonna be pretty lonely...


Well, until the elves and wizards come to the humans aid in the expansion
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mytheroes
mytheroes


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posted December 16, 2010 07:07 AM

That's actually good imo, minimizing the chance of the plot being reduced to "good guys ganging on bad guy" like in H5.

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boeserlich
boeserlich


Hired Hero
posted December 16, 2010 03:53 PM

Haven = Light Magic
Necropolis = Dark Magic
Inferno = Fire Magic
Stronghold = Earth Magic
???? = Water or Wind Magic

Necropolis is evil
Inferno is evil
Stronghold is neutral
Haven is good
???? should be good for balance

So maybe the 5th faction is a Water or Wind based faction which tends to be good. I think it will be a kind of Akademy.

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cookie
cookie


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posted December 16, 2010 05:49 PM

they could just go ahead and make Naga be a good, Water magic-using faction who lives underground.....

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