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Other Side of the Monitor: Terror night in France. ( Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 )
Thread with 31306 views started by Kayna on 15 Jul 2016, last reply 12:59, 28 Jul 2016.
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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 17:13, 19 Jul 2016

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The danger is, that nowadays everything is a "terror attack", everything is Islam-based (as opposed to nutcase-based), and everything is to blame on THEM.



No, the danger is denying Islamic terror has something to do with Islam. Islamic terror is a world-wide problem.  Islamic terrorists are not poor people who have been oppressed by straight white protestant males. They are people driven by a desire to please Allah.  Some are poor, some are middle class, some are rich.

When they yell the phrase commonly translated "God is great" they are saying , "Allah is the only god and because you do not worship him now you die."  Denying Islamic terror has a religious motivation is not just wrong, it is dangerous.

There is little hope for France or the rest of the West if it does not even understand the enemy it faces.
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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 23:07, 18 Jul 2016

The Nice truck driver was recruited by ISIS.  

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/18/nice-france-attacker-reportedly-recruited-by-algerian-isis-fighter-researched-orlando-massacre.html]Clicky[/url]
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The uncle of the truck driver who killed 84 people on the French Riviera says his nephew was indoctrinated about two weeks ago by an Algerian member of the Islamic State group in Nice, as anti-terrorism authorities question potential accomplices in the devastating attack.



Yes, it is true that one can' t completely stop all jihadist attacks.  But such attacks can be mitigated to they happen less frequently.

Monitor mosques to see which mosques preach jihad.  Secure the border.  Will some jihadists get through?  Yeah, but if you do it right most will be caught at the border.  

Thouroughly vet immigrants.  Temporarily cease Muslim immigration. Some exceptions, such as well known Muslim businessmen can be allowed.

If an someone says he is a Christian you contact his supposed pastor.  Don't say it can't be done.  Work with religious organizations that know the pastors/rabbis in the area.  

When you root out jihadist networks in the nation and Muslims begin to assimilate then you can think about resuming vetted Muslim immigration.

However, immigration from places where Sharia is the law of the land must always be very closely vetted. Sharia believers will never assimilate and will always be a thorn in your side.  
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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 15:18, 18 Jul 2016

I am not a Catholic and would not presume to defend everything the Catholic church has done.  However, the crusades had nothing in common with jihad.  The crusades began when Muslims began conquering Christian lands,in order to push back the Muslim invaders.

Today Muslims are waging jihad (holy war) on the West but the West is not really pushing back.

Islam is mandated to conquer the world.  Christianity is not.

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French Prime Minister Valls said at the memorial service:  “Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism. We have to show solidarity and collective calm. France has been hit in its soul on the 14 July, our national day." He was soundly booed.  I have hope the People of the West are waking up and will force the "leaders" to take action.

Other Side of the Monitor: mass shootings in the u.s. ( Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 )
Thread with 94679 views started by fred79 on 03 Dec 2015, last reply 03:34, 27 Mar 2018.
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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 02:24, 18 Jul 2016

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cops (and the cop can be black as well) tend to be more hasty with the trigger, even in situations where the black suspect is unarmed. In other words, in those split-second moments, they are more likely to assume a threat, even if there isn't one. Are you suggesting that, this is completely unreal and unarmed black people somehow act suicidal and make crazy moves as if they are armed, although, they are not?     



Did you read the link in my post?  Black cops & Hispanic cops are more likely to shoot blacks than white cops are.  Also whites are more likely to be shot in a violent confrontation than blacks are.

The article also discuses "unarmed" shootings.  In many such shootings the perp is beating the cop or trying to take the cops gun before shot.   The term unarmed is deceptive.  It does not mean non-violent.

The article also points out blacks commit disproportionately more violent crimes which means blacks will be in more high steed situations with cops than whites will.

The statistics show cops are less likely to shoot a black man than a white man in a confrontational situation.  The exact opposite of the narrative the left pushes.
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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 01:19, 18 Jul 2016

[url=http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler]Shootings by cops[/url] and race.

Cops are more likely to shoot if a confrontation involves a white person.

No cop wants to shoot a minority because if they do there will be screams of racism no matter what any video shows and Obam a is likely to send minions to try to make it a case about race. Good cops have lost their carreers because of false allegations in a case gone national.

There are no more than 5-6 "bad shoots" by cops in the US every year.  Considering the number and type of encounters they have that is actually pretty good.

In a perfect world there would be no mistakes but cops have to make split second decisions that determine whether they live or die.  If a cop wants to arrest you and you peacefully comply you won't be shot.  If you resist arrest and make a movement the cop interprets as you reaching for a gun you will probably be shot. That is your fault, not his.  And yeah, in a very, very rare case an officer may shoot somebody while knowing he did not have to shoot them.


The misperception that cops are out hunting black folks is created by:

1)  media rushing to judgement or having an agenda & playing video over and over when a black person is shot by a cop. Can you ever remember a video of a white guy being shot by a cop being played over and over?

2) Race pimps like Al Sharpton who make a living off stirring up racial strife.

3) democrat politicians who are out to solidify minority votes by convincing minorities that white people hate them and only the Democrat Party can save them. Identity politics and cop hate.

4)  Blacks are more likely to commit violent crime and more likely to live in high crime neighborhoods.  So blacks are going to have more confrontational encounters with cops and see.more such encounters

5)  Liberal ideology that pushes whites as oppressors and inherently racist.


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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 23:22, 17 Jul 2016

Cops put their lives on the line every day on every situation they are called to go to and every traffic stop they make.  Now simply by putting on their uniform they are endangered.

If cops have to roam in squads of a dozen or more to defend themselves that will slow down response time to 911 calls and result in fewer areas being patrolled.

Cops keep law & order in our societies. If you see a cop this week thank him, buy him a cup of coffee or pay for his lunch. Civilization needs cops and law enforcement deserves our respect and grattitude.
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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 18:00, 17 Jul 2016

Another mass shooting of cops.  In Baton Rouge, Louisiana this morning reports are 7 cops shot, with 3 dead according to mayor's office. Scene is still active.

Around 5 days ago 4-5 people were arrested for a plot to kill cops there.
Other Side of the Monitor: Terror night in France. ( Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 )
Thread with 31306 views started by Kayna on 15 Jul 2016, last reply 12:59, 28 Jul 2016.
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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 17:00, 17 Jul 2016

[Url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/17/nice-terror-attack-police-vans-blocking-promenade-withdrawn-hour1/]jihad at nice[/url]
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Nice terror attack: Bouhlel sent text message minutes before attack asking for more weapons, as couple are reportedly arrested on suspicion of supplying gun



So the jihad by truck had support from a terror cell it appears. I think so far 7 people have been arrested now in connection with the attack.

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In a pessimistic interview with the Journal du Dimanche, Manual Valls, the French Prime Minister, has warned that terrorism will be a part of the country's daily life for a long time.



Dark days ahead for France.

[url=https://pjmedia.com/blog/latest-survey-finds-25-of-french-teenagers-are-muslims/] Twenty five [/url] percent of the youth in France are Muslim.  [url=http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/42-of-french-muslim-youth-support-suicide-bombing-young-us-muslims-not-far-behind/2016/07/15/] Fourth two [/url] percent of French Muslim youth support suicide bombings.  Valls is right to be pessimistic.
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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 03:26, 16 Jul 2016

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If you will mess with Islam and mosques, you will find that numbers of terrorists will rise a VERY quickly... Of course if it's not your goal.. 



It is certainly not wise to allow a mosque to preach jihad and jihadists to organize and plan there.  Islamic terrorists would love to intimidate the West and into ignoring mosques that support them.  

Appeasement does not work but unfortunately the West has spineless leaders at the moment.

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If the Europe will "push" harder to the immigrants, this will not make a terrorists attack less number, this will have actually opposite effect - IMHO. 



Jihadis have already arrived with the "refugees." Everywhere they go there is mass rape and more acts of terror.

Every nation has an obligation to protect it's people.  Not having a secure border and tight immigration control is an invitation to the jihadists.

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This is looks like Soviet Union communistic ideology - "the traitor of the peoples



No.  Saying that preaching jihad or planning terror attacks is treason is not " communist ideology."  If a citizen wages jihad or provides material support for jihad on America that fits our definition of treason.

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Terrorists are muslim radicals - the same radical are in Christianity to



No, there are no Christians waging holy war.  The vast majority of terrorist attacks across the globe are because of someone thinking he is pleasing Allah.  

Point to any New Testament passage that says a Christian can punish any sinner for any sin.  Not there.  Point to any Christian denomination that says to conduct a holy war against anyone.  You can't.  Show me a video of Christian terror groups blowing up airports or hotels or beheading groups of people in the name of Jesus.  You can't.

Jihad is a concept that has been in Islam since it's founding.  Jesus said not to kill unbelievers but to preach to them, to love them, to pray for them, and to do good to them.
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posted by Elodin (Promising Legendary Hero) at 21:45, 15 Jul 2016

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But you typing about "the war against West", the "too peaceful politicians" etc .., so for now my conclusion is next: 1) You never saw the war by yourself, 2) You are look too much of "Camelot cartoons" 
, and obviously you are bloodthirsty. 
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Both of your conclusions are incorrect.  I am a United States combat veteran.  Without willingness to fight society cannot have both peace and liberty.  Willingnes to fight does not mark one as bloodthirsty.

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And where actually this is described in the Islam printed stuff (Koran/Sharia)?? Or any other statistic do you have to confirm your ... words? 



My first piece of evidence is mountains of dead bodies.  A person screaming "Allah is great" as he is murdering innocents is a pretty good indication of a Islamic motivation.

My second piece of evidence are Muslim terrorist organizations calling for jihad ("holy war.")  Do I really need to link to these?

My third piece of evidence is [url=http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/19/the-mosques-behind-jihad-attacks-in-america/]

imams [/url] preaching jihad in [url=http://m.clarionproject.org/analysis/radical-mosques-america-there-one-near-you] mosques [/url] even in the United States.

My fourth piece of evidence is [url=https://counterjihadreport.com/category/muslim-polls/]Sharia law[/url]

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The Sharia, Islam’s canon law is traceable to Koranic verses and edicts (45:18, 42:13, 42:21, 5:48; 4:34, 5:33-34, 5:38, 8:12-14; 9:5, 9:29, 24:2-4), as further elaborated in the “hadith,” or traditions of Islam’s prophet Muhammad and the earliest Muslim community, and codified into formal “legal” rulings by Islam’s greatest classical legists. Sharia is a retrogressive development compared with the evolution of clear distinctions between “ritual, the law, moral doctrine, good customs in society, etc.,” within Western European Christendom, and it is utterly incompatible ... post shortened to 2000 characters.
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